Tuning up your 15-2 -- The Average Joe method.... Page 2 Reloading, Gunsmithing and Grip Making The Dan Wesson Forum Forum

Avatar

Please consider registering
guest

sp_LogInOut Log In sp_Registration Register

Register | Lost password?
Advanced Search

— Forum Scope —




— Match —





— Forum Options —





Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters

sp_Feed Topic RSS sp_TopicIcon
Tuning up your 15-2 -- The Average Joe method....
January 9, 2010
3:59 pm
Avatar
SHOOTIST357
Colorado Springs, CO

Supporter

Range Officer
Forum Posts: 4788
Member Since:
May 2, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

OK, if there was ever any doubt if this tune-up is worth it…not anymore 🙂  I had a guy at my house last night shopping for a 357.  After pulling the triggers on a few different brands, we started talking trigger pulls–I told him to hold on a sec and I pulled the project 15-2 out of the safe.  He handled it for about 30 seconds and said he would take (it wasn't for sale..), but he handed me $425….so it is gone 🙂

SHOOT

January 10, 2010
11:18 am
Avatar
Charger Fan
Northern Utah

Supporter
Forum Posts: 10513
Member Since:
January 24, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

LOL!laughing  Well, that's good…or maybe bad. I guess I'll have to make sure & not let anyone else play with my DW's, if I do trigger jobs on them.Laugh For sure not my .375 SM, that thing has the coolest trigger I've ever felt in a revolver.Range Time

Be yourself, everyone else is already taken.

January 10, 2010
2:04 pm
Avatar
firearmsalesman
Member
Forum Posts: 2
Member Since:
January 10, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Go easy on the polishing of the trigger group parts on your dw's, since they are made from sintered iron,  ( a early verision on mim),  you don't want to go through the hardening if you do the gun will wear quickly, s&ws are similar in the fact that the are only case hardened.

Does anyone know where to obtain the transferbar/ timing pawl spring, wolf doesn't seem to offer a replacement for them, i hear from one of the bosses at work(one of michigans largest firearms retailers)( a former gunsmith) that that spring is a point of wear.

January 10, 2010
2:08 pm
Avatar
lbruce
Georgia

Dan's Club
Forum Posts: 3528
Member Since:
November 17, 2008
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Welcome to the DWF Sign. Try this link /?page_id=202 and stop by the new members thread and introduce yourself.

LB

sig-pic-3-stainless-2-1.JPG

April 29, 2010
1:05 pm
Avatar
pinecone
Maine
Member
Forum Posts: 5
Member Since:
April 28, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Shoot, This is a very good tutorial. I don’t know anybody yet on this forum but it looks like you have done some gunsmithing in your time! Your dead on about hardness of the metal and cold bluing. It’s all in the alloys involved and their content. Mainly the “nickel” content. The more the nickel percentage, usually the more difficult for blue to take. I have used these 6 cold blues for quite a few years with very good results. Oxpho-Blue, Dicropan IM, Dicropan T-4, Black Magic (by Kleen Bore), 44-40 and Perma Blue (by Birchwood casey). I have found the “Black Magic” to blue some metals that would not take the others very well. I also generally use the “heat” technique using either a propane torch or hair drier on the high heat setting. As stated by Shoot, some metals just simply have too much alloy to blue at all. Stainless steel afterall, has a high nickel content!…………………….DickWink

April 29, 2010
1:28 pm
Avatar
SHOOTIST357
Colorado Springs, CO

Supporter

Range Officer
Forum Posts: 4788
Member Since:
May 2, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

The toaster oven is your best friend when it comes to bluing small items Laugh…  It is surprising how much a little heat helps the bluing process take hold.

SHOOT

July 8, 2010
2:47 pm
Avatar
Supermagfan
Pennsylvania

Range Officer

Dan's Club
Forum Posts: 3136
Member Since:
February 9, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Is the cylinder stop part of the sideplate or a replaceable part?

A man cannot have too many SuperMags

July 8, 2010
3:28 pm
Avatar
SHOOTIST357
Colorado Springs, CO

Supporter

Range Officer
Forum Posts: 4788
Member Since:
May 2, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Supermagfan said:

Is the cylinder stop part of the sideplate or a replaceable part?


 

Well, it depends… Laugh Some of them are pressed in parts and can be replaced.  Others are molded into the sideplate.

SHOOT

July 8, 2010
8:02 pm
Avatar
Steve

Dan's Club
Forum Posts: 10330
Member Since:
March 2, 2008
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Supermagfan said:

Is the cylinder stop part of the sideplate or a replaceable part?


 

What I think is the correct answer (and was sort of confirmed by Priscilla at CZ/DW) is that the cylinder stop on a 14/15 series was part of the sideplate. I don’t think I’ve ever seen an original parts diagram that shows it as a separate piece, it simply breaks off on some revolvers, and DW produced a replacement piece as an alternative to buying and fitting a new sideplate. In fact, I just bought one because one that was broken and press fit back into place was finally lost.

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

George Carlin

August 6, 2010
4:16 pm
Avatar
RossA
Houston
Member
Forum Posts: 18
Member Since:
August 6, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

While I would LOVE to do this kind of thing, I have to admit that my cojones just ain’t big enough to try to take all of those little pieces out and then try to get them back together again. My hat is off to anyone who can do this.

August 7, 2010
9:18 am
Avatar
SHOOTIST357
Colorado Springs, CO

Supporter

Range Officer
Forum Posts: 4788
Member Since:
May 2, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

RossA said:

While I would LOVE to do this kind of thing, I have to admit that my cojones just ain’t big enough to try to take all of those little pieces out and then try to get them back together again. My hat is off to anyone who can do this.


 

Believe me it is not as hard as you think.  Very few pieces, simple assembly.  Go for it Laugh.

SHOOT

September 16, 2010
4:35 pm
Avatar
jgourlay
Member
Forum Posts: 12
Member Since:
September 14, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Can you cock the hammer and pull the trigger (letting the hammer down gently) with the sideplate off?

 

I'm looking at (this most excellent) post and the picture.  My mechanically inclined 6 year old daughter would be THRILLED to see how all the little parts all work together.

 

I tried this once with a 1911 and, well, I thought I'd ask here before doing it with my new revolver….  Embarassed

September 16, 2010
7:33 pm
Avatar
SHOOTIST357
Colorado Springs, CO

Supporter

Range Officer
Forum Posts: 4788
Member Since:
May 2, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

yep, no problem cocking it while the sideplate is off.  I'd suggest putting your finger on the hand to keep it in place when you cock it.

SHOOT

September 26, 2010
5:40 pm
Avatar
frjd
Denmark
Member
Forum Posts: 27
Member Since:
May 20, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

1) Install a set of Wolff reduced power springs, especially the trigger return spring. http://www.guns……….prings.com

 

– I just got a set for my Action cup. (7,5 hammer, and reduced trigger springs).
However the reduced trigger return spring could not return the trigger.
I did not polish the trigger, just oiled it up. Do you think a polish would make a difference?

Its almost unused and did not seem to need polish.

September 26, 2010
6:14 pm
Avatar
Steve

Dan's Club
Forum Posts: 10330
Member Since:
March 2, 2008
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Action Cup is a pretty different DW, this kit may not be right for it.

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

George Carlin

September 26, 2010
6:31 pm
Avatar
frjd
Denmark
Member
Forum Posts: 27
Member Since:
May 20, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Steve CT said:

Action Cup is a pretty different DW, this kit may not be right for it.


No, I guess the frame is a normal 14-2. (DA only).

The springs was like shown in the first post. So I think the kit should work.

September 26, 2010
7:07 pm
Avatar
SHOOTIST357
Colorado Springs, CO

Supporter

Range Officer
Forum Posts: 4788
Member Since:
May 2, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

No reason it should not return that I know of–make sure the short end of the sping is properly placed behinf the hammer boss (pivot).  Everything else is back together properly?  Here is the inside of an action cup.

Image Enlarger

SHOOT

September 27, 2010
2:48 am
Avatar
frjd
Denmark
Member
Forum Posts: 27
Member Since:
May 20, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

SHOOTIST357 said:

No reason it should not return that I know of–make sure the short end of the sping is properly placed behinf the hammer boss (pivot).  Everything else is back together properly?  Here is the inside of an action cup.

 

SHOOT


Strange.

Yes im sure its properly placed, it also workst fine when I put the original spring back.

Tried several times to switch back original/reduced – each time the trigger got stuck with the reduced.

November 19, 2010
11:10 am
Avatar
Headsmaster
Rocky Mtns, CO
Member
Forum Posts: 149
Member Since:
June 20, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Kinda late on seeing this post but I had the exact same “trigger sticking back” when I put Wolff spings in my DW 15-2. I switched back and forth between the Wolff and original springs to see if it was my installing of the springs Broken Computer.  Nope. Everytime I put back the Wolff springs the trigger stuck. Everytime I put in the original springs the trigger worked well.

 

I finally realized if I backed out the trigger stop (so the trigger couldn't go back far enough to get stuck lol2 ) the problem was solved.  I am not a gunsmith, but the trigger pull works fine and is real sweet now (partly because I polished up some items thinking that was the issue).

 

Great post Shoot. I think I will dig back into my revolver and give it a complete polish job….

November 19, 2010
3:22 pm
Avatar
frjd
Denmark
Member
Forum Posts: 27
Member Since:
May 20, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Thanks I will try to adjust the trigger stop.

Forum Timezone: America/New_York

Most Users Ever Online: 76

Currently Online: dride711, Different Drummer, Stinger
44 Guest(s)

Currently Browsing this Page:
2 Guest(s)

Top Posters:

Steve: 10330

SHOOTIST357: 4788

Dave_Ks: 4280

zoommb: 3157

Supermagfan: 3136

Blacktop: 3004

IHMSA80x80: 2692

Ole Dog: 2425

brucertx: 2310

Stinger: 2299

Newest Members:

kenneth kish

Batch

Jzetti10

EezyBeezy

Scott M

curtis jayne

Punisheraz

Indyparts

firehouse

aroundincircles

Forum Stats:

Groups: 11

Forums: 42

Topics: 14577

Posts: 129311

Member Stats:

Guest Posters: 87

Members: 7033

Moderators: 4

Admins: 1

Site Supporters: 1972ctdc, ar-tex, arcnsparc, Artur, atomar, b4delta, BBinger, bikeridertim, BRM, bunny, bwjones0011, CaptDanDD, Caruso4510, DA....64, Dariusz Gut, dbodom, Dettom, Dr.Seuss, DWpistolpackin, ese927, freerider04, Garfield411N, Garymckenzie, GetAGrip, HankB, Headsmaster, hesslism, hester57, Hosspower, JamesF Swidryk, JASJR, john Goldsmith, John Greenley, johnbrandolino, JohnD, JustinPolley, larry260, LG, lonwolf93, Lracmcd, md8232, minmich, Mtn_Eagle, ParaNormal, pete, ray, Rex Beachmont, Rimfire, Roberto, SCORPIO, Starman90, StevenTrate, StillKickin, stovepipe, Sweeney, sweet trigger, Venturerider

Range Officers: brucertx, Dave_Ks, SHOOTIST357, Supermagfan, Tigger, zoommb

Dan’s Club: Boeing, brucertx, bunny, Dan Fan, Dave_Ks, DWpistolpackin, ese927, Garfield411N, Gman1956, jaggman, lbruce, lman, lonwolf93, Lracmcd, Maria Perkins, mhannon, Michael Berner, Ole Dog, ParaNormal, Rimfire, riverinerat, RonaldSemerena, rwsem, SCORPIO, snake-eye, Steve, Supermagfan, tikit2ryde, Wheelgunner, willy, zoommb

Administrators: Jody

Moderators: lbruce, Charger Fan, rwsem, SCORPIO