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May 19, 2024 - 11:14 pm
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Wbrco said
Only a small cut on my left knuckle.

Load was (supposed to be) 9gr HS-6 Sierra 158 JHP 8360, Rem 5 1/2.

Only other note was that the top strap had been drilled and tapped with a 6-40 thread for a scope mount.

Forensics to follow.

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Dang! Glad you are okay. Rocket science ain't no joke.

 

Looks like you got a wall hanger for the reloading bench there.

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Update:

Finally had time today. As soon as I went to zero my trusty 5-0-5 scale I knew what happened. 

Somehow I had bumped or moved the heavy bar fro 0 to 10. This had to be before I set my Lee Auto Drum, which is odd as I as a habit to always zero the scale when starting.

So the result was 19gr of HS-6, not 9gr. I did confirm by pulling all the rounds an re-measuring.

I do look at the fill in the case and weigh about every 10 rounds, but if the scale is set wrong that doesnt do much. 

Last year I finally broke down and bought a chineesium digital scale. So, from now on, a second check will be done prior to starting actual loading.

Allen

  

Wishing it was possible to somehow instill experience onto those without it... I Look into the cases after charging, Not only to in sure that they are all the same...But, Also...from experience, I have a "feel" for how full they should be!!! One reason I dislike "new" powders..

Having Never used HS6...I would have No Clue where it Should be...Would take lots of Time to Gain Confidence!! Or, I try very hard Not to change...Not just because I'm Old!!!!

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I didn't know it was even possible to load double the powder in a .357 shell, that's nuts! 

I also haven't used HS6 yet, that one would be uncharted territory for me. My go-to load is 17gr of IMR4227 & that gets the case pretty full, so 9gr of Hodgdon HS6 must be some potent powder!

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Glad you're OK.

This is why I run a powder check die with alarm on my Dillon press.  I've had people tell me it's unnecessary, but this is exactly why I use one, it would catch a gross over charge while still on the press.

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Thanks for the follow up information, and glad you were not seriously injured!

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HS-6 and Power Pistol are nice powders for "intermediate" loads in 357. Smaller charges so pound of powder goes farther, yet enough powder that you don't run into position sensitivity.

A little faster and a lot cleaner than Blue Dot. Both meter well too.

I didn't know it was even possible to load double the powder in a .357 shell, that's nuts! 

I also haven't used HS6 yet, that one would be uncharted territory for me. My go-to load is 17gr of IMR4227 & that gets the case pretty full, so 9gr of Hodgdon HS6 must be some potent powder!

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Wow!  Glad you're OK!

And glad you ID'd the problem!  Hodgdon shows a max load of 9.5 gr. of HS-6 for a 158 gr. XTP, so 19 gr. was definitely pushing it!  Sorry about your revolver, but glad you still have your eyes, and all your fingers!

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A man has to know his limitations. I am just not careful enough to reload ammo and I shouldn't be driving a vehicle. I do drive but I don't reload. My problem is I am too cheap to PAY attention. Thankfully most cars and trucks just about drive themselves today. 

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And definitely don’t drive and reload at the same time!!! lol2

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So, thanks to my new (to me) Grizzly G0759 and my trusty Atlas/Craftsman 618 I was able to salvage most of the internals and the barrel/shroud.

Unfortunately, while using pliers turning the last little bit of the frame off (I turned what was left around the barrel down to ~.100 to make sure I could work it loose) I buggered the frame end threads pretty good.

Net is, it won't thread into my other frame.

My threading skills are almost non-existant, and I don't even own a single point threading tool for the lathe. 

Just posted in Wanted for a barrel.

I might take the old one to a gunsmith that I know here in the STL metro to see its salvageable, but I don't want to have to mess with right now.

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I'm glad you escaped with minor injuries.

This is why, as a matter of course, I reject any powder that is capable of taking a double-charge in the case its being dumped into!

Seriously. If it happens with a charge over 50% of capacity it dumps powder all over the place as a sort of Fail-SAFE warning.

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