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Twist rate 8" 357 15-2
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sixpointfive
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April 11, 2011 - 6:38 am
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Can someone please tell me what the twist rate is for a stock 8" barrel is for a 357 15-2 VH.

 

Thanks, Mattmini-gun

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I believe it was 1:14  member Pinetor has the numbers on these.

 

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All DW barrels were originally 1:16 -- Later on in life, this was changed to 1:12 on a VERY limited number of barrels.  It is easily seen when you look down a fast twist barrel.

If I remember right, the 5" comp I sold had a fast twist in it.

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My long time understanding was that for the .357/38 in barrel lengths under 10" the standard twist rate for monson guns was 1:16.  For barrels over 10" and up it is 1:14. However, a simple google search has some placeing the twist rate was as high as 1:18 3/4.

 

http://www.exteriorballistics.com/reference/pdf/Twist%20Tables_handgun.pdf

 

My (extremely limited) understanding is that optimal twist rate is a function of BOTH bullet weight and velocity. So a .38spl @ 158gr and at say sub 900FPS likes a fast twist rate (12 to 14) while a .357 @ 125gr and 1250FPS benefits from a slower twist rate (14 to 18). At one time I found a table showing all this but I lost the link. The probelm with the table was that it only covered very standard loads. So what twist rate would say a 180gr at say 1200FPS want... I really dont know.  I think the point of what I have read is this: you only want enough twist as needed to stablize the round. More twist (than that) yields no more benfits.

Adding to all that may be range/accuracy at range. I have not had a chance to shoot past 25 yards, and I mainly shoot .38's @ 158 and sub 850FPS. So for me Erics 1:12 seemed a very good fit. (I also am only shooting 6" barrel). Now if I move up to my 8" barrel and .357 loads... I will be shooting the standard DW barrel.

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in that order.

4 Monson Model 15's

1 Palmer FB 15

1 Rossi 357 Model 92 (lever)

1 CZ 75B

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I have a 15-2 that says monson,mas on the barrel. I plan to use this barrel for hunting and shooting. What I am looking for is  a barrel that I can shoot 200 yards with bullets 170=180 grain cast. What is the best twist rate for this? I believe ews has the 10-12" barrels with a one in 12 twist.

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April 11, 2011 - 10:01 am
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Hmmm try this:

 

http://www.stevespages.com/page8e.htm

 

Seems that its bullet length, not weight as well as velocity.

Soap Box, Ballot Box, Ammo Box

in that order.

4 Monson Model 15's

1 Palmer FB 15

1 Rossi 357 Model 92 (lever)

1 CZ 75B

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I like JBM calculators. Go to bottom of page and look for the stability calculator.

http://www.jbmballistics.com/ballistics/calculators/calculators.shtml

It includes length, weight, velocity.... Be sure to read the "Explanation of Terms"

p.s. I posted this similar response (above) yesterday, but when I logged on now, my post was gone when I looked ( so I just reposted this shorter version).  Did anybody else see my prior post or am I going screwy ?

 

Winchester also has a nice on line trajectory calculator:

http://ballisticscalculator.winchester.com/

 

I have been thinking about writing something up for my own use, but came across an Excel ballistics file that looks real nice so far: FBC-v3.1.xls.  Go to 

http://sites.google.com/site/freeballisticcalculator/

and click through a page or two until you get to the download for the file.

 

Finally, here is a compendium of sites and tools. I have not looked at them all:

http://combatrifle.net/ballistics.htm

Enjoy occasion

 

 

 

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