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jaggman
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July 29, 2009 - 6:55 am
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On the pic below you can see the trigger limiting screw is on the trigger. I just noticed this and have not seen this on my other guns. Screwy  Anybody know anything about it?

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I have three Monson guns.  The 22 and 357 are both located on the trigger, the 44 is located on the frame.

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All of my monson guns are on the trigger (15-2's), with the exception of two;  my .22 serno 231x, and my new 715 PP serno SD00618x.

I remember reading somewhere about when/where this change was made--it was probably on this forum.

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They did move the screw into the frame at Monson sometime. I had started a list of serial numbers a while back, in an attempt to try & figure out when the move was made. This is the lowest s/n I had found with the screw in the frame.

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 I thought I was really getting somewhere, until Steve came along & said that one of his guns had a higher s/n than this & the screw was still in the trigger.Mad

I threw that paper away...I'll try & figure it out later. lol2

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My other 15-2 s/n is 20058x and has the screw in the frame.

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Hi Guys, While your on the subject, how does one set the screw? I know by turning it.Surprised But what are the parameters for doing so. Thanks, Mike

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I set mine by gradually turning it out until the gun will not fire, then turn it in an eighth to quarter turn. Check to see that the trigger releases every time. Then put a dab of blue locktight on the screw.

On the large-frame screws, for some reason DW installed them backwards...you have to remove the trigger assembly to get at them. Once you've done that, remove the screw, swap it around and install it so the allen head is outside the trigger guard. Then you can adjust it without taking the gun apart.

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I don't clearly remember what I posted before (hey, I don't clearly remember what was for dinner last night Smile) but here's what I have

s/n 7261x- a 1977 gun has the screw internal on the trigger

s/n 20427x -vintage unknown has the screw in the frame (and I may have misposted this one Embarassed)

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

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Steve CT said:

s/n 20427x -vintage unknown has the screw in the frame (and I may have misposted this one Embarassed)


Or I may have been sleep posting again at the time & read it wrong.Embarassed I can't say that's never happened before.Confused I wish I could find that post & re-read it.

Well anyhoo, that's great news then! That means that as of now, we can use your s/n as the standing low number for having the screw in the frame.occasion This has given me hope once again to start keeping tabs on these.

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Purchase date (new) of 7261x is pretty definitely late summer 1977, I did some checking way back almost at the dawn of time

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

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Charger Fan said:

Steve CT said:

s/n 20427x -vintage unknown has the screw in the frame (and I may have misposted this one Embarassed)


Or I may have been sleep posting again at the time & read it wrong.Embarassed I can't say that's never happened before.Confused I wish I could find that post & re-read it.

Well anyhoo, that's great news then! That means that as of now, we can use your s/n as the standing low number for having the screw in the frame.occasion This has given me hope once again to start keeping tabs on these.


Where does that leave my .22 with the 4 digit serial number and screw in the frame?  I know each model has different production runs, but 4 digit has to be early.

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I don't know for sure, but I think .22 was a little later in time. We do know that there is no real logic to DW serial numbering

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

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My 15-2, s/n 20058x has the screw in the frame.  Does that make it older than CT's? It's blue and a Monson gun.  The one with the screw in the trigger is s/n 22622x.

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I just found this one tonight on GB, it's s/n 21xxxx (can't read the rest) & it has the screw in the trigger. Back to the drawing board.Frown

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=135786714

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SHOOT, there's an article over at the DWCA (beats me if I can find it right now) that tells when the .22 was introduced. 1982, if I recall correctly.

As of yet, I've never seen a .22 s/n lower than 4-digits, so at this point in time, I'm assuming they started the .22's at s/n 1000. Merely my speculation of course, pending further facts.

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Who knows... Maybe they just installed them in the frames on fridays every week for fun Laugh

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Two different articles put the Model 22 intro as mid-late 1979

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

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Thanks Steve, maybe I'm thinking of the .22 Mag being released in 1982…hmmm. I should write this stuff down.

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Good news!  I just grabbed an old stack of 1980 Shooting Times out of the closet, and I found two cover articles for the NEW Dan Wesson .22.  January 1980 and June 1980.  I'll get them scanned in tonight if possible and sent to the forum god ASAP.

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