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Need help removing compensated shroud. . .
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DrMike
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October 11, 2008 - 9:39 pm
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I know this sounds like a stupid question but rather than "wrench" on my recent purchase I thought I would ask. . . I'm having trouble removing the nut from the end of the compensated shroud.  The barrel nut tool will not work.  I'm speculating that the knurled/checkered portion is supposed to be used for gripping and turning. 

Does the nut spin clockwise or counterclockwise, or is there another way to remove it?

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

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It would help to know which manufacturer made your gun; if it's the Monson style of porting, which vents some of the gases into the shroud, then you have to spray a quality cleaner product or brake free into the vents and barrel and allow to soak for awhile, try and soak, try and soak until the buildup is softened enough to allow the nut to be removed.  The Norwich style shouldn't have that problem, but a good spray and soak, if it's the newer style wouldn't hurt.  The problem with the older models made them unpopular, if they weren't taken apart and scrubbed after each use.  The holes in the barrel didn't exactly line up with the shroud and after many firings or fewer with lead bullets; the buildup between the shroud and the barrel around the threads would make removal  difficult if not impossible.

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First, thanks for the responses!

Gun is a First Edition Norwich, NY manufacture, which I believe was around 1999 or 2000.  If the barrel has not been removed in all this time, it may need a little TLC.

I'll soak it down for a while. . . and give it a nudge.

Thanks again.

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October 13, 2008 - 11:08 am
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Make that a "First Issue". . .

Anyhow, I removed the nut at the end of the compensated shroud, then went to remove the barrel nut to separate the barrel from the shroud. . . . stuck tight!  Unable to torque it because it tightens the barrel into the cylinderFrown

So. . . probably will ship it into CZ/Dan Wesson for repair and quick "once over".  Pretty sure it is fixable, unfortunately the repair means I will not be able to fire it for awhile . . . I know. . . patience is a virtueLaughing

Anybody else had this problem?

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DrMike, this post may help you over at Graybeard Outdoors.  Below is also a copy of that post but I give full credit to DWTim on that forum for the pictures and information below:

Tech info for stuck barrels

Yes, friends, it's the Tactical Dan Wesson Stuck Barrel-nut And Barrel Removal Tool. I will be applying for a patent shortly. [Image Can Not Be Found]

It all started after I noticed some scratches in the barrel of a 375SM I'd just bought. I figured I'd just unscrew that sucker and send it back to DW for inspection, right? Wrong! Those internal bbl nuts, they seem to be either too loose or too tight. And when they're too tight...

Post-operation observation reveals that there was apparently some gummy tape residue in the threads and the shroud. That and the nut was just too darn tight. [Image Can Not Be Found] My attempt at turning the nut absolutely butchered it, so I fumed, put it away and waited over a month to tackle it again.

Then I came up with the idea of turning the barrel inside the shroud. I'm posting the results so that someday, somewhere, someone else with the same problem can benefit. Or, you can have a good laugh at my expense.

Plate 1: The TDWSBABRT fully prepped and ready for action. Note the hi-tech clamping device. It may look like some scrap wood left over from my dryer vent project, but it's not! It's hi-tech stuff, I swear!

Plate 2: Here you can see my Torque-loque(tm) system, giving good grip on a 5/16" screwrod. These may look like penny parts from a hardware store, but do not be fooled!

Plate 3: Here you can see the double-nut on the forcing cone side. This is after I popped the barrel. It turns out that the nuts were just the right size to fit through the frame as I turned the barrel out.
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Plate 4: Okay, seriously, though. With common tools and $1.16 worth of hardware, and a little gentle nudging on the vicegrips, I saved myself a ton of aggravation and some cash, too. Here you can see the butchered nut.
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Whew, glad that's over with.

 
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Jody,

Thanks for the info, you are quite adept at surfing for Dan Wesson info!

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