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April 16, 2011 - 6:46 am
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Other than caliber, what are the differences between a model 9 ( or 709) vs a model 15?

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Not a single thing....  Except, in my opinion, both my 9 and 709 have the best finishes of any of my DW's.  Maybe the 38's got some extra special care.

If you have a line on a model 9 or 709, you should get them.  I think I'm the only guy on the DWF with either one.

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I was guessing that the cylinder might be shorter so that you couldn't put a 357 in it.  I would also assume that since DW uses the same frame for a 22 and a 15, that they would the same frame for a model 9 too.  I've never seen either one but since I like stainless (have 722 and 738), I would only be interested in a 709.

 

In short, why is there a model 9?

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I suppose every company needs a dedicated 38 spcl for all the target shooters.  Heres the super sexy model 9 (Palmer)

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and here is one of my favorite DW's -- the 709 in high polish SS.

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I really need to give the 709 a good scrubbing and get her back to former glory.

SHOOT

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Shoot, It's shameful how dirty the 709 is, send it to me and save yourself the embarrisment!!wink 

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Nice 38's Shoot.  Is the 709 a Palmer gun?  Were these Palmer production only?

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mikep7m10 said:

 

In short, why is there a model 9?

Because they can.wink laugh

I see what you're saying, why make a gun that only chambers .38, when you can have a .357 that will do both?

The only two answers I can think of is that when you slip a .38 into a .357 cylinder, there is a bit of slack in the cylinder in front of the bullet. That could cause a small amount of instability to the bullet before it enters the forcing cone of the barrel...therefore, not achieving optimum accuracy.

The other reason may simply be that certain shooting classes require a gun that's made for the bullet you're shooting, no "universal" cylinders allowed.

That's all, I'm out of guesses.big-grin

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Charger Fan said:

The only two answers I can think of is that when you slip a .38 into a .357 cylinder, there is a bit of slack in the cylinder in front of the bullet. That could cause a small amount of instability to the bullet before it enters the forcing cone of the barrel…therefore, not achieving optimum accuracy.

This may be it – I think they called the model 9 a Target 38.

 

Shoot:  That frame on your 709 looks like it might be slightly shorter than a 15 – so it might not be the same frame.  Could you measure them for us?

 

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Shoot,

 

That 709 is beautiful!  Wow!  Thanks for sharing the pic.

 

Greg

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