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Extra pin on 722 and same gun won't do "DA."
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danwesson41fan
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Hi:

I took delivery of a Palmer 722 revolver sans barrel.  I ordered a matching 22 ca six inch s/s VH barrel and shroud from DW.  It turns out the replacement shroud has only one pin while the Palmer frame has two.  Do I 1) remove the extra pilot pin or 2) leave it in and send the replacement barrel back to the factory to exchange it for something with 2 holes to match the 2 pins on the frame?  

Also, my revolver works only on SA, not DA.  I read something previously that the grip screw might be interfering with the works.  Please let me know how to go about correcting these issues before I send this Palmer gun back to the factory. laugh

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Can you post a couple pictures here?  I could be wrong but I don't think this issue has ever come up before.  The frame should have only 1 locating pin.

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Nope, a few models have two pins in the frame.  You can just yank out the one that does not match--

We'll need pics and a serial number for your 22, you may have a SA only model.

I'll see if i can dig up the dual pin info.

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My 722 Silhouette is single action only and has two pins. Maybe that model is the two pin / SA gun?

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Yea I would just pull the top pin. Only a few 22 and 41 models had two pins that I have seen. You probably have a SAO gun as they were Palmer built. Just take off the grip and if it still is SAO that is what you have. I suppose it might just be messed up internally but SAO is more likely. Pics and serial # would help identify it. An inspection with the side plate off will tell you for sure.  If you are a stickler for originality a SAO gun should have come with a ram on the barrel shroud. As far as I know all the SAO 22s had it. Others may have more and better info. 

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Good chance, since the barrel/shroud was not with the gun, that it is a Silhouette gun that had it's B/A sold or swapped out.

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Am I missing something?  Try loosening the grip screw and see if DA starts working.  If it doesn't, then it may very well be a Silhouette gun.  Anyway, pics, please, pics?  laugh

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Am I missing something?

What you are missing or actually confusing is the grip screw problem normally prevents the DW from working SA and works DA only. A Silhoutte gun only works in SA only and not DA. At least I think I got that right. Now I'm confused

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It might be an SAO gun.  SN is 22S001165.  It is a Palmer gun and it does have two locating pins vice one. It looks like the two sideplate hex screws got buggered up slightly. I suspect another former owner had the same questions and wanted to check it out his/her self.  I'll have to look around for a camera.  In the meantime, I may have to remove the second non-conforming pin since the new barrel only has one. 

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lbruce said:

Am I missing something?

What you are missing or actually confusing is the grip screw problem normally prevents the DW from working SA and works DA only. A Silhoutte gun only works in SA only and not DA. At least I think I got that right. Now I'm confused

LB

Oops.  embarassed  Next thing you know, I'll think I'm left handed.  Thanks LB.

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DW41Fan,  box it up and send it to kansas! Darn SAO just is not the same!  It should have come with 10"HV w/ram on end of ba. A person maybe able to convert it to DA with the corect parts.  I have not removed the side plate odf my SAO one though need to at some poitn and compare,  

 

Easy fix box and send to me!  

 

sorry to do this but it has to be done!!!

 

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August 19, 2011 - 10:23 pm
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SHOOTIST357 said:

I'll see if i can dig up the dual pin info.

 

Beat ya.wink  LINK (post #7 about halfway down)

I'll slap the pics here too, just so we have pics in this thread.big-grin This is a 741...

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Another interesting DW anomaly.  I thought it was only the 41/741 that had 2 locating pins.  My Monson 741 has the 2 pins, but my Monson 722's have single pins.

Who knew?

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