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Jody
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February 18, 2008 - 9:06 am
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I wonder if we could request shipping documents for the previous Dan Wesson Companys under the Freedom of Information Act.  Anyone know?

 
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I really do not see what the government needs to take this information in the first place and keep it a secret.

Dave

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February 21, 2008 - 7:51 pm
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  No, I think you will find that with each changing of "ownership" over the years, possibly the records have already gone to the 'BATF'..... I doubt if the 'freedom of info act' will be of any use in this , as to 'maunufacturing......

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February 29, 2008 - 2:30 pm
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.

Serial - Numbers

Its a shame but i think that dant is right.

Nevertheless informations about serial-numbers

occur - where else as here should be the place to collect

this infos ? Often enough serial numbers appear with

fotos in auctions for example: 

http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=93359030

 http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=93133807

 

Thus occouring information should be enough just to get a rough idea

about the systematic of Dan Wesson serial numbers. 

 

Now its so easy to begin:

(For privacy-reasons i suppose to 'X' the last digit of serial number) 

#  3843X  DAN WESSON MODEL 15 357 MAGNUM BLUE 4" BARREL

 auction info

 

@ dant can you give me a guess about my

.44 with serial 00219x see my pictures here: 

 https://www.danwessonforum.com/?page_id=3&forum=1&topic=11&page=1

 Regards Tom

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  No, sorry, as to the later guns I cannot.... I feel that a 'Forum' like this can give us a better idea and possibly get some info from each other as to the serial number of the guns we buy , when they were "new" alas, used guns throw this out the window as well as how long any gun sat on any particular 'dealers' shelf or showcase.........thats why it would be such an undertaking to me, to come up with some "basis'and wonder what even CZ/Dan Wesson has "On hand" as to any historyor information.......????

I know all of our old records from the mid/late 70's and into the early 80's is "history" long gone and was all turned into 'BATF, back then,,,,,, now it's "memory"?????

Just do not see enough of them to even "form" an idea or estimate... have seen more in the past few weeks , here on this Forum, than I have seen in the past 25 years..........

so yes, keep it up guys...........................

dant

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Hi guys !

 Concerning subject i just like to quote this story, which was written by richhodg66 you can read originally here: Klick

 

 

richhodg66 said:

True story;

Back when I was stationed at Fort Sill, Oklahoma in 1992and about to be assigned to Alaska, I went to a gun show in Oklahoma City and bought a Dan Wesson .44 magnum for $200 cash off a table. I was quite into big bore revolvers at the time and enthusiastically started working up loads and casting bullets. It was really beat up (reason why it was cheap), but it shot well. The only problem was it misfired with kind of alarming regularity.

I figured someone had done a trigger job on it and screwed it up, so after one gunsmith didn't solve the problem, I got on the phone to Dan Wesson and arranged to send the gun to them for repair. When they got it, they called me and said the gun had a defaced serial number and they had to get the feds involved (one digit was buggered as the gun had been battered a bit, I figured it was a 6, but it could have been a 9).

Anyway, I get a call from a BATF agent who was very polite and cooperative and genuinely seemed interested in clearing up the matter and getting my gun back to me. Asked some basic questions, pretty much determined I hadn't broken any laws and said he'd get it worked out. About a month went by, I called him back to check the progress and he told me the case had been handed off to another agent who I called next. This guy wasn't nearly as polite or nice, although he was professional. He told me that unless they could figure out that serial number and track the gun all the way from the manufacturer to me, they'd have to destroy it, and that at least one of the serial numbers it could be had tracked to a guy who ended up in prison along the way. This was about two or three months into this thing and I was about to move.

I pretty much gave up on seeing the gun again, but called the agent and Dan Wesson when I got to Alaska and got an address established and told them how to get in contact with me if anything changed and then pretty much gave up on it and got on with my life (picked up a .45 Colt Blackhawk that helped me get over the lost .44).

More than a year later, after I had moved once to a new address and changed phone numbers, the phone rings one morning as I'm getting out of the shower and it's Dan Wesson on the line. They told me they'd had a hell of a time getting hold of me and did I want the gun back? I said "yes", they said send $50 for repairs and they'd get it back to me. A couple of weeks later it came via UPS and I took it to the range, shot 50 rounds through it, it misfired twice during those 50 rounds which I deemed unacceptable and I swung by a local gun shop before I went home and traded it off on a .22-250 I had my eye on for a while and never looked back.

The BATF is a bad bunch, but in all honesty, they made the effort to do right by me that time when they most likely didn't have to. I haven't had to send a gun to anybody for repair since and probably never will again, unless I bought it brand new and had a paper trail on it, though.

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 wow - this story proves how problematic it is to find BAFT info

 

Due to company history the first Dan Wesson arms will get 

Curio and Relics (C&R’s) firearms in 2013 - five years from now ....

How to get a C&R License read here: Klick

 

Regards Tom

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I believe the service department at Dan Wesson must have improved by now since all I hear is praise on the 1911 Forum. 

Jody

 
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  Tom, yes that is probably very true and happens all the time, and to me shows that the system "does work", alas, at far too slow a pace, but thats "government" for you. We too recently ran into the same thing with a Ruger revolver. Was told by the dealer we sold it to, that he had traded it off and that dealer sold it to  'Dr' in the army and when he transferred to  his base in Kansas, as a matter of "military policy" they 'ran ' all of his serial numbers.... the one gun came up "stolen" in Florida back in the early 80s......came back that everyone wanted their money back, but I called a "freind" in 'LE' in Florida, gave him the serial number and it turns out to be another model of Ruger, a semi auto RST-6 ,exact same serial number and was stolen in 'Ontario Canada'.........ours was "clean", as the police report said "exactly" what the firearm was , NOT a revolver..........

last we heard the 'MP"s were still going around and around with this poor Dr. who has just come back from serving in Irag......poor guy is getting the run around, bottom line.

dant

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Boy, that shure makes a guy wonder about purchases at a gun show, doesn't it? Especially if it's a two day show and the guy you bought a gun from is gone the second day. Maybe we need a hot line for checking hot serial numbers.

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