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missionary5155
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Good morning   proud-to-be-an-american

I am wondering if there is any interest amongst the 41 mag DW shooters in the possibility of having EWK do a special run of 8" .41 mag 1-14 twist barrels for heavy lead bullet shooting.  I would not be oppossed dramaticly to a 1-16 twist.   I picked 8" length due to me preference in using my 8" barrel hunting. 

Why ??  Well a 265 grainer will shoot accurately with a large compressed dose of 296 (H110).  But start dropping the FPS to lets say 1000 fps then the 1-18 twist is too slow to really stabalise heavy bullets.  There is little need to pop a whitetail or piggy with a 265 or heavier cast bullet at 1350 FPS.  A 265 or heavier bullet at 1000 fps will go through most any vege eater from all but the "grill door" shot on large whitetails & larger beasties.  Then there is also the 280 grainers + that are great to smack big hogs & other nasty critters with.

So what is your imput ?  Any Interest ? 

Mike

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September 9, 2011 - 10:17 am
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SIGN ME UP! Dang if my handle ain't Dan Wesson "41" Fan!big-grin

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I may be in, but from what I can tell: a one inch long, .410, 265 gr. bullet should stabilize in a 1:18.75" twist, even at 900 fps.  Of course, I'm not certain how long the bullet actually is- just guessing.

http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmstab-5.1.cgi

 

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September 9, 2011 - 1:12 pm
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You can buy barrel blanks in 41 mag with 14:1 twist send them to eric to turn down and thread.Name of company GREEN MOUNTAIN barrel co.

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rwsem said:

I may be in, but from what I can tell: a one inch long, .410, 265 gr. bullet should stabilize in a 1:18.75" twist, even at 900 fps.  Of course, I'm not certain how long the bullet actually is- just guessing.

http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmstab-5.1.cgi

 

Hope all is well in Peru!

Regards, Ron

Neat tool...

 

put the length to 1.5 inches and its all the difference in the world!!!  I dont know how long a .41 @ 265gr is.. but bullet lenght is EVERYTHING.. At 1.5" the best twist is 14.

 

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waltfraz said:

You can buy barrel blanks in 41 mag with 14:1 twist send them to eric to turn down and thread.Name of company GREEN MOUNTAIN barrel co.

Walt--you beat me to it laugh...

Not that EWK wouldn't make a 41 barrel, however....  it would be cost prohibitive for him to do so for a limited quantity.  He would have to purchase a 41 gun drill, plus a rifling button.  This alone, plus set-up would push the final product cost higher than most would pay.

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Good afternoon    Thanks everyone for the imput..  I have already considered the private purchase route and getting the machine work done.  I wrote Erik complimenting him i¡on his great looking DW accessories and so started the possible .41 fast twist barrel communication with him.  So I thought why not see if there was any real interest beyond me & my flurry into heavy cast bullets.  I eventually have the goal of getting 300 grainers to accurately fire out to 100 yards.  With a 2x scope it should be a dandy rig for popping large corn crunchers and piggies who just do not want to get closer.   

But that is where this all comes from.   Mike

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I think it would be worth a try to see if it makes any difference with the faster twist! Good call the green mountain has the blanks, that would be quicker that way...of course not as much fun as making them from scratch! laugh

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SHOOTIST357 said:

waltfraz said:

You can buy barrel blanks in 41 mag with 14:1 twist send them to eric to turn down and thread.Name of company GREEN MOUNTAIN barrel co.

Walt--you beat me to it laugh...

Not that EWK wouldn't make a 41 barrel, however....  it would be cost prohibitive for him to do so for a limited quantity.  He would have to purchase a 41 gun drill, plus a rifling button.  This alone, plus set-up would push the final product cost higher than most would pay.

SHOOT

Having some further commo with EWK he may be headed into the project in future months.  I will keep you fellow DW shooters posted as I know more. 

One thing for sure.. I will one day have a 1-14 twist (maybe also a 1-16 ) twist 8" barrel and will happily be launching heavy cast boolits at easy to reach velocities.  Keep-em smoking... the corn crunchers are getting bigger.

Mike in Peru

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October 12, 2011 - 11:59 am
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Has there been any movement on this 41 magnum barrel thread?  Quite frankly, I'm interested! Thanks DW41F.

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Greetings   Have had some good commo with EWK.  May be a future project as he has showed interest.  But if my worst case senario is buy a 1-14 twist blank I will get a long one and have made as many as possible in 41 mag (8" & 6") & at least one in 414 SM 8".

It takes a good case full of 1680 to get a 265 GC moving fast enough to hold stable out to 100 meters in 41 mag.  I did not crono the load that was the most accurate as it was late November in Illinois and very windy & cold.   What I am looking for is to stabalise 280 grainers at 1200 fps.  This would duplicate the old BP 40-60 loads that were more than sufficient for big crtters.  If more FPS is possible sainly that would only be a plus.

Mike in Peru

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My NY 741-V10S SRS-1 came with a 1:14 twist barrel as the only one, not an extra barrel. It is even marked on the outside as such. AND, I have a whole bunch of Leadhead 270 grain cast bullets on hand...another project for another day. occasion

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October 22, 2011 - 1:41 pm
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Thanks for passing on that info..   Makes me wonder if DW ever made any 8" 1-14 twist barrels.  Mine was shipped back in late 81.  Be interesting to see if that twist was listed as an option when the NY factory was opperating.

Mike in Peru

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October 22, 2011 - 6:21 pm
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That's a great idea on that barrel twist. My .41 mag has a heavy 6 inch barrel. One day I might find an 8 in. barrel/shroud for it. 

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October 22, 2011 - 8:09 pm
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Barrel making is getting in full swing, this last batch of small frame .357's turned out awesome, so we're going to be heading into large frame territory next! laugh

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Okay need more feedback-

Thoughts on bore/groove diameters? Stock bore is .399" and groove is .409" (SAAMI spec didn't check my Dan)

Number of grooves? 6, 8 or other?

What material would you like to see first steel or stainless? Both?

Thanks guys!!!

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October 23, 2011 - 10:38 pm
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SAAMI specs o.k.

Six groves would be fine.

Carbon steel in my opinion (I can't seem to get it out of my mind but I'm still leery on the s/s to s/s contact with galling). Besides carbon steel on stainless still works and one can cover it up with the shrout.

 

A special request: can you make shrouds for the large frames? Thanks! DW41F.

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October 23, 2011 - 10:52 pm
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'k sounds good! Thanks for the feedback!

On the shrouds, I am working on them! laugh

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October 26, 2011 - 6:38 am
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Good morning   Yep go with the standard specs.  Those Origonal DW Barrels shoot good.  No sence reinventing the wheel.

Mike in Peru

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When EWK starts on the 41's I may have to pick one up! Just to have his parts on it! Or one of you guys can send your extra one!

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