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I bought my used 15-2 357 several years ago, and only started shooting it in the last year on a few outings and noticed the opened cylinder slides all the way back to the grips when unloading, and loading. Any ideas on what could cause this? I can't imagine buying it and not noticing this problem, but I could very well have. Thanks,

 

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Sounds like the cylinder stop is missing, do you have an open hole

on the side plate above and left of grip ?

 

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 See the half moon above trigger and below back of cylinder ?

Are you missing that ?

 

-Blacktop

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One of mine is missing that. Where would I find one? Sorry for the hijack.

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Unfortunately, it's semi-common to have a 15-2 with a missing cylinder stop these days. Blacktop's pic shows the proper stop in it's place, here's a couple that are missing...

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DW did a design change to the side plate a while later, molding the cylinder stop into the side plate, as one piece...

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Currently, replacement cylinder stops can be purchased from DW (info in the FAQ's area to the right, under "where can I order parts?).

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Possibly very dumb question, apologies.

How do I tell which kind I have in mine ( assuming it didn't fall off yet?)

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If you see that small halfmoon shaped hole below/behind the cylinder, and your cylinder slides to the rear, the cylinder stop has broken off your sideplate and you can order a replacement cylinder stop from DW.

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

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mister callan said:

 

How do I tell which kind I have in mine ( assuming it didn't fall off yet?)

Look at the first picture, see how it looks like a perfect half circle.

That is the one that can fall out. The last two pictures are the newer

almost square like integral molded stop.

 

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Thanks, and I should have known because there is a half moon hole just waiting for the new part to be put in. My question now is when I get the new part, is there anything like locktight ect. that can be used to keep the new one from falling out again? Also, I'm guessing a rubber mallet would be the tool to use installing the new? After this, I need to find out why my rear sights are a little loose at the V and little box or what ever that piece is called. Maybe thats normal? Thanks again to all.

 

Frank

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Hmm.  My DW 357 has the little half-moon crescent that apparently indicates the loss of the cylinder stop.  I never gave this little half-moon any thought.  But my cylinder behaves fine.  It opens about enough to use a speedloader and no more, and does not go back towards the grip as described here.  Am I missing the part or was mine designed differently, perhaps without the part? 

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How is the original held in?

Is it just a friction fit, or is there something else involved?

Like he said is there anything the home owner can do to help keep it in place, such as solder/braze/epoxy/supergluewow or whatever?

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Redleg said:

Hmm.  My DW 357 has the little half-moon crescent that apparently indicates the loss of the cylinder stop.  I never gave this little half-moon any thought.  But my cylinder behaves fine.  It opens about enough to use a speedloader and no more, and does not go back towards the grip as described here.  Am I missing the part or was mine designed differently, perhaps without the part? 

I thought the same thing, but I'm not sure the way it used to be. Maybe there is a built in stop on some 15's from the 80's? Was was wondering if I shot some too hot loads to cause this problem?

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 My DW is of about 1981 vintage.  Well, as I said, my cylinder behaves fine and I cannot recall there ever being anything there other than the little crescent, but I could be mistaken.  Think I will give DW a call on Monday and see what they say.  The little part can't be that much dough, and then maybe I'll ask my Smith what he has to say.  The gun performs excellently and the cylinder does not require any part to stay where it is supposed to.

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I'm betting it isn't going back because of filth--Some cylinders I've literally had to PULL apart.  Not much clearance inside the cylinder, doesn't take much fouling to make it stick.

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SHOOTIST357 said:

I'm betting it isn't going back because of filth--Some cylinders I've literally had to PULL apart.  Not much clearance inside the cylinder, doesn't take much fouling to make it stick.

SHOOT

Not true in my case.  My gun is pretty immaculate and in fact was just cleaned and serviced by a gunsmith.

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For many years I just tapped the cylinder stop back in place, and kept an eye out for when it came out. I do not believe it was ever a separate piece, I've never seen a parts diagram that listed it as a part. Priscilla at DW/CZ told me that the part they have is a "service" piece, not part of the original design.

Some people have described securing this piece in place with locktite, glue, etc. I would probably remove the sideplate and attempt to epoxy it back into place on the sideplate, but I have not attempted this repair myself.

I went to a bookstore and asked the saleswoman "Were is the Self Help Section?" She said if she told me, it would defeat the purpose.

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