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Dusty Trail
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May 21, 2009 - 11:59 am
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GTDWI just saw this thread - Congrats Zoom!!  What a great find / capture - that's the way to get 'em!

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I think if someone was going to put slots in a shroud they should at least duplicate the slotted DW shrouds which this one doesn't!

Plus its been powder coated... 

 
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IH..Jody   what do you mean..
"slots in the shroud" do you mean the 2 slots on each side of the shroud that are pictured that allows the barrel to show thru... I thought was to reduce weight and perhaps let out heat faster for competition shootings...NO ? 

Or do the slots serve some other function that I'm unaware of  and are needed on a .22 Mag.   ??

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I will try to answer this one. The shroud slots were ( I believe) a means to reduce weight to keep some of the super-mags under the IHMSA weight limit. Heat dissipation was probably just a good side effect. On the 22m I am sure it was just someones attempt to make the gun look cool. But that is just my opinion and someone else may set me straight.

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Thanks for your help, bnitch.

She told me that it had just been reduced from $575.  The $50 really doesn't matter.  BTW, you did say it has an 8 inch vented, heavy barrel, didn't you?

Jody, It's a boy.

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Jody:

The slots may be the right length (for an 8 inch shroud) but they're too high.  It looks kind of goofy.

But more importantly; he painted the bloody gun.  He painted it. I don't care how good a process powder coating is, it's gonna fail eventually and really look crummy.

Actually it looks pretty crummy now -- a silver painted gun -- what a joke.

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May 21, 2009 - 5:18 pm
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Hey Zoommb,

Yeah if he would have made then a little narrower top to bottom he may have been able to pass it off... however I don't believe they ever made a slotted 22 shroud.

The powder coat is awful (nothing else to say on that one)...

JB

 
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I am not sure now if its sloted or not, sure about the 8″ part. Also sure it hadden't been shot in a very long time if at all. The cylinder needed oil to spin freely but it was tight I checked that. I just think it has been a long time since it has been even touched. I lifted the star to see if it was dirty cause the cylinder turned so slow but it was clean as new. I think you will be happy.

I didnt say it was a vented heavy, I said it was 8" and heavy. I dont think it had an underlug. More like a 14 shroud. Sorry if I miss lead you. I'm sure you could cancel it and I could get a little money from somewhere and buy it. I would have but it was just so heavy to hold up.

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That's one sad DW on Gun Broker-one more reason for Capital Punishment. Considering the way it's been butchered, I'd have some doubts about the work done to convert to .22 mag

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Jody said:

I think if someone was going to put slots in a shroud they should at least duplicate the slotted DW shrouds which this one doesn't!

Plus its been powder coated… 


What is powder coated?

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jaggman said:


What is powder coated?


When done right, powder coating is a coating that's stronger than normal paint. Usually used on vehicle suspension parts & stuff. This one wasn't done right, maybe even one of those "bake it yourself in the oven" deals, because it's already flaking off the cylinder.

Basically, on this gun, it's just sick-n-wrong.Cry

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Isn't powder coating like an electrostatic paint job.. done with electric charge .. + on the part and - on the paint.. or vica versa and that's why the paint sticks better.. I know places like Caterpillar use that kind of paint process..??

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Powder coating:

Powder coating is the technique of applying dry paint to a part. The final cured coating is the same as a 2-pack wet paint. In normal wet painting such as house paints, the solids are in suspension in a liquid carrier, which must evaporate before the solid paint coating is produced.

In powder coating, the powdered paint may be applied by either of two techniques.

  • The item is lowered into a fluidised bed of the powder, which may or may not be electrostatically charged, or
  • The powdered paint is electrostatically charged and sprayed onto the part.

The part is then placed in an oven and the powder particles melt and coalesce to form a continuous film.

There are two main types of powder available to the surface finisher:

  • Thermoplastic powders that will remelt when heated, and
  • Thermosetting powders that will not remelt upon reheating. During the curing process (in the oven) a chemical cross-linking reaction is triggered at the curing temperature and it is this chemical reaction which gives the powder coating many of its desirable properties.

I think Zoom hit it: he PAINTED the bloody gun...and Steve had the proper punishment... lol2

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Best darn powdercoating description I've heard this month.occasion 

Waine(?)(LOL), you're right about the electrostatic thing though. They do use that technique in some regular wet paint applications too, mainly to control overspray, from what I understand.

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Weber (my wife works there) uses electrostatic powder coating for all of their grills (except the stainless ones, of course) and those grills last for-darn-near-ever.  They also take a lot of heavy abuse before flaking so the process used here must have been deficient in some manner.  JMO.

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WOW.. Dusty.. !!!

FLUIDISED  !!! COALESCE !!!

MAN I WAS ABOUT TO SUGGEST YOU GET THE GOLD STAR FOR SPELLING THIS YEAR.. THEN READ THE “INTERNET”   CREDIT… SORRY .. NO AWARD.. BUT LOVED THE WORDS BABE !!!  YEAH !!

Hey I was thinking .. if this guy DID have it powder coated.. and it had to cure in the oven.. what temp would it cure at ??? high enough to do anything to any tempered parts.. we know some of the DW tempering is pretty thin.. so how much would it take too wreck or do damage in that department… how would you know .. until it was to late ..??  BUY.. GET.. LOAD... BANG..BANG..CLICK.. BREAK.. OH NO !!!  TOO LATE ??

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Well seeing Im the owner of this pistol and I have nothing to hide, let me set a few of you straight here..First I will say when I got this pistol a few months back it was a complete mess, wish I had the pics of before and now..It was Hand painted when I got it and looked like it came from the dump, Im sure Dean aka (IHMSA80×80) can prob testify if he remembers seeing the before pics of when the other guy owned it on our SP forum.……I personaly completely disassembled it and removed all the internal parts and cleaned them before sand blasting and powder coating the frame and shroud…..For some reason the cylinder did not take to keen to the powder coat job..I belive its the type of metal combonation its made from..The barrel shround and the frame turned out excellent and its very smooth not texted looking like the cylinder. This was no Cheap spray paint or can of paint. This was all done with a Powder coat gun and real powder coating. The 150 degree temp it takes to bond the powder and cure does not affect the frame hardness what so ever. I  called and talked to the owner before me and he told me he had the cylinder rebored to 22 mag and the slots cut in the shroud by a local gun smith of his..Very nice job actualy if you were to see this pistol in person..The pistol does shoot VERY well and the only reason Im selling it now is Im just that way, I buy something, use it, get bored, and move on, I do it all the time. I have had 5 different 22 mags in the last 2 months alone. With the exception of the crummy way the powder coat setup on the cylinder this pistol is in very good shape and looks great. I thought about retrying to coat the cyl. or even paint it black, but figured I would leave it up to the new owner. It actualy looks much worse in the pics that it does in person. I will take some better pics of it and show yall just how well the powder coating looks on the frame and shroud. Its very hard and is 100% weatherproof with this coating. With the dot scope that on it I can shoot golf balls with her at 50 yards all day long…I understand some of you, heck maybe all of you, dont like the way it looks, and thats fine, your entitled to your opinion, I just wanted to set the facts straight here....If you saw it in person and you saw it the way I got it and the way it looks now you would never belive its the same gun....And the pistol is listed to sell, not to just sit here, thus the .01 starting bid…… I stand behind my word and my credability, and If any of you doubt it, then check my feedback over on Specialty pistols website and gun broker.., Im straight up and I'll tell ya exactly the way it is…..Cheers, Ryan

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Hey Big,

Very glad you posted an explanation.  It sounds like you made that a pretty cool project.

I've seen a few guns on GB that were hand painted & it sho' ain't pretty...so I can appreciate your position.  Still a little surprised that you chose to powder coat though.  Are you in the business?

Wouldn't it have been better to have it plated or polished and reblued?  That would make a mighty fine nickel special.

Last thought, next time you're bored with a project gun post it here on the forum!  Unless, of course, it happens to be powder coated...(just kidding!!) Surprised

-Dusty

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Hey Ryan.. Glad you set us straight.. nothing like getting it from the horse's mouth..

I did not realize this was a gun that was on GB NOW !!!! I thought the guys were discussing some gun that was on a while ago...so I just went went and  looked it up.. your right that cyl. looks.. gnarly..but then I take crappy pictures as well.. lol..  

I am curious as well.. why did you want to powder coat.. ( I actually don't know a lot about powder coating, especially on guns,  but know that if it's done right ..it 's very durable),  just curious  as to why you did not think alone the lines of re-blueing.. ?

I think you are correct in assuming that some of the metal on the Dan Wesson's were a "different " kind of .. I don't know what they call it.. cintering or something like that.. I have read something about that composite metal being used and I can't recall on what parts it was used.. and supposedly it was fine for what it was used for.. but then I wouldn't be smart enough to know how the different kinds of finishes would adhere/ react with that different  kind of steel.. ( just cause it LOOKS like steel don't nessarsarily MAKE it steel !!! )  

 Hope the sale goes great for you.. say do you have any other Dan Wesson's or is this your one and only ??

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