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180 gr. hard-cast 357 in small frame
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I just shot a small hog at about 10 yds. with 158 gr. hp and may just as well have used a BB gun.  Everyone says use 180 gr. .357 hard-cast flat points to drop hogs, deer, etc..  Has anyone used these heavy loads with a replaceable barrel DW?

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Can't say that i Have, though everything I ever put through Dan did well.  More target here than hunting!  Someone will have an answer for you I am sure! 

 

Oh  and  Welcome to this place and let's see what ya were shootin! 

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Welcome!

 

I haven't yet... but I am waiting on a sample lot of hard cast 180gr bullets from a local caster. I am also strongly considering Hornandy XTC 180gr JHP, which seems to have a great following. Of course the bullet is just part of the equasion... what powder did you use?

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1 Palmer FB 15

1 Rossi 357 Model 92 (lever)

1 CZ 75B

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I was using some generic reloads or non-commercial JHPs.  Would have no idea which powder they used.

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I have put 'hard cast' 158gr 357s through both sides of quite a few decent sized hogs.

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Generic reloads are often made up as target rounds. Only meant to "kill" paper. Thats 99% of what I have/make. A hunting load would be a different powder and more of it.

A good 180gr "thumper" will not be something you would want to shoot off 50 of in a day. Much less the 125 it takes to complete most competitions such as ICORE.

 

A 158gr in LNRP .38 could be going as slow as 800 feet per second, and be a great round. A nice hunting 158 gr in JHP on a .357 would be doing at least 1000 FPS, and could be going 1500 FPS!!!  That is a WHOLE lot more energy!  If your barrel is longer and the powder slower... (10 -12") you can get a lotta ummpf out of the common 158gr.

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1 Palmer FB 15

1 Rossi 357 Model 92 (lever)

1 CZ 75B

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I've shot the 180 grain LFN from Buffalo Bore through my 6 inch small frame. Can't say what it would do to a hog, but as far as putting it through the revolver, it is a great load. No more recoil than the Federal 158 grain hydro-shocks I shoot, about the same level of accuracy (or better), plus the powder smells great, LOL. I should be getting about 1400 fps for about 750+ lbs. It is my backcountry load (except for bear country where I carry a 44 Dan). hasn't loosened up the revolver at all.

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I've loaded many Lyman cast 173 grain bullets.  The nose is a bit long for the DW, but if I get my dies set just right they'll work in the crimp grove, or just do the "right thing" and crimp over the front band.  My revolver really likes this bullet, made pretty soft, with a mid load of Unique, and loaded so they just fit.  I've never shot any thing alive with these, but I'm sure if cast of semi-or hard lead and loaded up for a bit more speed they'd do the trick.

When I backpacked the Montana back country I carried Speer 160 JSP (No longer made) loaded with a stiff load of 296; I didn't cast back then.  When I cut my first Griz tracks I couldn't believe how small that 6" DW looked next to the tracks.  I bought a DW44 right after that trip.

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