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January 1, 2011 - 6:04 pm
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Help a side plate screw in my small frame SN#33XXX is rounded out.  I have been carb cleaner spraying out and reoiling since I bought it over ten years ago.  Was a Police trainer for a long time before that and I did not round out that allen head.  Is there a ez way around the problem.  It needs new springs the gun is not functioning as it should.    I know its been through the ringer and I had to get the crane straighten to use it.  Well it is still a great shooter and want to get it right again. 

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Which screw/  pic please!  Thinking here,   others may have dealt with this before! 

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The bottom screw under the side plate.  Your picture there is just like mine.

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OK, how bad is it stripped out?  Usually I can get them out with the folowing options before I resort to weird measures...

-- try a few different allen wrenches; they are not all created equal, some are slightly larger than others.

-- try a metric allen wrench it may fit tighter.

-- once you find the best fitting wrench you have, fine some powder to sprinkle in the screw and on the wrench--flour, baby powder, graphite, etc.  This provides a little "bite" and will help it from slipping.

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January 1, 2011 - 7:33 pm
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lightning said:

The bottom screw under the side plate.  Your picture there is just like mine.


If you have a porkchop model gun be very careful with that screw--some of them have different threads than the newer ones--you may have trouble finding a replacement one.

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tried varius sizes did not think about baby powder, try that tomrrow after I heat the screw with a soldering iron.  There has got to be 40 years of gummed oil there.

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lightning said:

tried varius sizes did not think about baby powder, try that tomrrow after I heat the screw with a soldering iron.  There has got to be 40 years of gummed oil there.


don't heat the screw, that will probably enlarge it and make it tighter--if anything, you need to freeze  it.  Use can use an old can of compressed computer air upside down if you have any.

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If the screw has been 90% stripped at this point, your only redeeming thing may be to try some "3M" valve lapping compound. It's in a squeeze tube normally available from an auto parts store.

Goop some of that on the end of your alllen wrench (square it off first with a grinder or file), then give it a go. If that slips, then just cave in & break out the drill...yep...drill the head off flush. Then you'll be able to get the side plate off & you'll need to search for the appropriate screw from there.

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It will be a challenge, the gun has a trainer has very been thrown and dropped a incredable number of times.  The fact it shoots well and functions over all these years is a tribute to the engineering of Dan Wesson.  Very likely the gun will just need a good cleaning.  Thank ya'll for quick answers and there is no way I'll ever pick up another 6 gun.  This little gun was built to be passed to the next generation and used.

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I must agree, these DW's are special. Especially in the hands of someone who appreciates them for what they are.

Let us know how you make out...and...GoodLuck

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If the head of the screw is really trashed, you might want to try a screw extractor, or 'ez out'. Just tap the extractor into the screw head to get a little bite, then as you turn counter clockwise the extractor, with its left-hand twist, should hopefully bite harder into the head and turn the screw out. I never used one on a Dan Wesson before, but used this method many times working on machinery with allen head bolts. No guarantee, but maybe something to try.

   Look for them in hardware store, or try MSCDirect.com. I would guess maybe a size #2 (I think) but am not sure.

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Heat was mentioned. While your soldering iron method will likely expand the screw temporaily , it may also cause any threadlocker or crud to release. It is worth a shot. You may have to wait for it to cool before it will come out though.

 

This might be an application for a good lold fashioned manual impact wrench. I have a small one that I use to remove stubborn scope mount screws, just a light tap.

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I've had about a 50/50 result with these.  Craftsman ScrewOut

 

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+1 on the screw outs...  I have a few of them.  I have all kinds of srew extractors/removers.

If you still can't get your sideplate screw out--most of the srew removers are too big for what you are attempting.  You can try a small torx or spline bit--these have the same effect as a screw remover, but are available in smaller sizes.

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Well I managed to remove the side plate w/o damage to plate or frame.  The Action is clean and no rubs.  The trigger return spring is sticking a bit, guess I'll need a lower side plate screw and a trigger return spring.  Thanks fella's  the old revolver is gonna be a gtg again. 

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lightning said:

Well I managed to remove the side plate w/o damage to plate or frame.  The Action is clean and no rubs.  The trigger return spring is sticking a bit, guess I'll need a lower side plate screw and a trigger return spring.  Thanks fella's  the old revolver is gonna be a gtg again. 


Well.... how did you get the screw out?

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January 4, 2011 - 4:46 pm
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Drilled it out (*&^ thing could not gret a bite on that allen head.

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Thank You Doc, I'll get a order to them the prices seem to be very reasonable.  Steve

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