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I took my son out this past Saturday to an indoor range for his first chance to shoot my DWA .22. The range we use makes you buy their ammo. The clerk gave us Winchester SuperX 40 grain. It became more and more difficult to clear the empty shells from the cylinder. I had to start using my palm to get the extractor plunger to work but it got so bad that I ended up leaving the last 6 empty shells in the cylinder til I got home. I did get them out at home. We shot less than 100 rounds.

My question is this, did I not clean the cylinders well enough from my previous trip to the range or is the problem something else? I think it may have something to do with the ammo MFG using thinner walled brass which I'd think may swell more inside the cylinder. I know that .22 is dirty ammo but then again, I'm no expert.

Any info or ideas why this happened and how to avoid it in the future would be much appreciated. I have cleaned the gun well this time and lightly oiled the extractor rod and each cylinder.

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May 25, 2015 - 9:00 pm
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I don't know if you have other choices for ranges to shoot at, I will not shoot anywhere I cannot shoot my own ammunition.

There are some ranges that require factory ammunition of commercially reloaded ammunition, any ammunition that I shoot there goes in a Factory container wink

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Right now I don't really have another choice Steve. I'd like to get into a Sportsman's club but the closest one to me isn't accepting any new members and probably won't be doing so for a while. As is, all clubs around here require you to be sponsored by an existing member. I haven't been doing this long enough to really meet someone in a sportsman's club as my job takes up quite a lot of my time. About the only choice I have at the present time is the situation I am in now, the same indoor shooting range.

 Any help with getting my issue sorted out will still be much appreciated.

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My experience with .22's and revolvers mirror's yours.  I often need to keep a brush with to shoot any more than 100-rounds through before the cylinders get to filthy to extract spent rounds.  This happens no matter what ammo I shoot.  I think it is just part of a snug cylinder and dirty ammo.

 

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Thanks for the tip SMF. I will put a brush in my bag to use when I take the .22 to the range.

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Does it look like there is any scoring or roughness in the chambers?

It's possible that the oil in the chambers is combining with powder residue to gum things up, maybe try running them completely dry?

And yes .22lr can be pretty filthy stuff. I have owned two DW .22's and never had this problem, and I am FAR from being a fanatic about cleaning after every shooting session.

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I will go with Steve on the oil thing and SMF on the brush. As you stated 22 is dirty. I always keep some goodies in my range bag and have always believed it is a good Idea to run a jag and clean cloth thru my gun before I shoot, if I oiled it good and put it up for a little while before the next trip.

 

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The sticking 22's have been a problem for the 22 DW I shoot. I too keep a brush handy. I have shot shorts and a variety of velocities and manufacturers.

Yes there are differences in brass too, this shows up on a real finicky Pt22 I have. CCI standard velocity 1075 40 grain is a good place to start comparisons. This rounds brass does not expand.

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Guys,

 

I thought I would expand on this a little.  I shoot a lot of .22 in weekly Bullseye competition, so Most of what I shoot is CCI standard velocity or RWS standard velocity.  The weekly shooting is done with all semi-auto pistols.

 

I used to have  S&W 617 target model and I could only get about 5-cylinders through before needing to brush it clean, that was for as long as I owned the revolver.  The three different Dan .22's I have all vary slightly in how many cylinders I can shoot before extraction gets difficult, but they all do get tough before too long.  I used to own a Ruger single six, a long time ago and as memory serves me that would start to get tight also, although extracting one round at a time from a single action is much easier.  I don't think it is just a Dan Wesson tolerance, it is just nature of the beast, IMHO. 

 

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I have a DW 22 that I have used numerous times in Steel Challenge and it will regularly go 75 to 80 rounds with no sticking problems and with no particular make of ammo. Guess I just got a good one.

I did recently acquire a 722M with 3 chambers that would not even fully seat a round. Spent a few hours on the cylinder and now all chambers seat fully and easily. Haven't been back to the range with it to see how it functions "hot", but I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

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The cylinders aren't scored or rough. They are smooth. It's only the second time I've fired it. The first time I put 100 rounds through without a hitch. It may be the lube or I didn't clean it after the first trip that I thought I did (old age does that). I'll make sure the cylinders are clean the next time I take it out.

Lotsa good info/help here on this and I appreciate it all.

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I generally keep a 22 brush, and a palm rod in my kit when shooting 22's.

One like this Kleen Bore Poc-Kit is quite small, and everything stows inside the handle.

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After a box or so, I'll have to brush out the cylinder to remove the built up gunk in order to be able to seat cartridges in the cylinder again.

It also helps to get the cylinder really clean after a long shooting session. I go so far as to chuck a 22 caliber brush and rod into a drill, and spin it with Hoppes to get all of the carbon rings out of the cylinder. I do shoot shorts and CB's sometimes, and they can really gunk up a cylinder.

With some guns, a 22 caliber bore mop with a dab of Flitz metal polish will really clean and polish up the cylinder. Polishing the cylinder like this lets me fire more rounds between brush out sessions.

 

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Nice kit Bullwolf. Very handy to have on hand. Thank you for the suggestion.

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