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My New 1911... In 10mm
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Went and picked this bad boy up this past weekend from a private seller. It is an original, NIB Colt Delta Elite in 10mm. And when I say NIB, I really mean it. The gun was purchased in November 1987, and was never fired. surprised

I ended up finding it on a local gun-forum and picked it up after emailing the seller quite a few times.

When I went to pick it up, I was in awe at the beauty of this thing. It truly is new, not a single flaw, mark or anything on it. I still haven't even broken it down to clean it as it is still in perfect shape. I honestly don't even know if I am going to shoot this thing, its truly that nice. It came with the factory box, also in mint shape, and all the original paperwork and original receipt. Hell, it still has the unfilled warranty card surprised

Needless to say, I am siked with this purchase.

Anyways, here's a few pics of my score.

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Very cool! You know, it will be calling to you from the gun safe though if you don't shoot it. Or could be a reason to buy another gun to use as a 'shooter'.

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lonwolf93 said
Very cool! You know, it will be calling to you from the gun safe though if you don't shoot it. Or could be a reason to buy another gun to use as a 'shooter'.

-Lonwolf

I'd love to find it's stainless brother, in "shooter" form and enjoy it. I am really hesitant to shoot this one since it's 25 years old, NIB, and mint as can be.

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I bought my Delta in about 88, I can't call it NIB, got around 20,000 rounds threw it.

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Nice gun! I have it's cousin, the Delta Gold Cup. They are very good shooters...you should go out and enjoy it. If you're not going to shoot it, you may as well take up collecting paintings. big-grin

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WOW-Congreats.

I've never had the opportunity to fire one.....I have fired a S&W revolver in 10mm and

its recoil was nothing special...an auto is different.

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The 6 7/8" 610-3 was just loud, no recoil, 5" 610 little snap and loud. My '87 was less felt recoil then my 1911 45ACP and was far more accurate with 3 times the usable range and less felt recoil then the Colt 70 series 45ACP and that let me to eventually rid myself of 45ACP 1911's with a couple of back slides due to price that never lasted long in my gun collection.

In 1911's you want the carbon steel blued guns for shooters, otherwise you have the peening of the slide by the slide stop due to the softer stainless steel. For carry or hunting I would use SS, but a heavy shooter needs to be carbon steel unless you shoot real light loads for range gun.

Only thing I shoot heavy/hot lodes in is my 44 or 744 DW below, and max loaded 300gr rounds is a piece of cake.

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Dangit I hit send before I was ready. I was going to add that my SA 1911 Omega 10mm is a real hoot to shoot, standard and light loads will hit me in the head quite often. With light loads one needs safety glasses to keep from be hit in the eye, with standard loads they bounce off top of my ball cap and hot loads 5-7 feet past me. I seldom loose brass from it, the Colt and DW throw them 7-10 feet from me and I always loose a few even with my 15'x20' tarp.

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This is a fun shooter at 50 yards plus if you have the eyes for it. drool

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Seeing as this thread is still alive and kicking, I'll give a little update.

I have decided to shoot it. I already have put 50 flawless rounds through the gun, with 4 different mags. The brass ejects nicely at about 3 o'clock, and up a little. Problem is though, that it shoots the brass out hard. Luckily I shoot indoors, so brass is easier to find, but still a PITA.

Here is an update pic of the gun. It is wearing a new set of grips, and a flat serrated M.S.H. from EGW. Planned mods are a rear sight change to an all-black unit, a larger safety, and a flat-bottom firing pin stop. Minor changes that will make the gun shoot so much nicer.

I actually like it more than my 45ACP 1911. The recoil impulse is faster, but it feels like it is less overall. Plus, the faster slide means faster back-on-target, and faster double-taps.

The only thing I don't like about the gun is ammo prices, but seeing as this is just an occasional range-toy, it wont hurt too bad in the wallet. I have other 9mm's and 22lr's to plink with.

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Get a Wolff 20# recoil spring for the gun, if it's original spring it will have 16 or 18 pound spring, depending when in the first year the gun was built. My old DE was after frame mod, but before they did 18# spring. Colt uses 20# 2 stage spring as standard spring now, so do upgrade to 20# 2 stage spring from Colt now or go to Wolff and go single spring and then EGW FP Stop when you can. I you go Wolff you might also order a 22# spring incase you decide to hand load hot stuff or shoot some of the speciality ammo like Double Tap.  

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That's a real nice looking Colt you have there.  Have fun with it!  I've had a Delta Gold Cup on my 'list" for a long time now and just haven't gotten around to checking it off yet.  Seeing this makes me want to step it up and fill that slot sooner rather than later.

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As a general rule you need deep pockets to buy factory 10mm ammo, and it's not a standard stock caliber in most stores. In other words if not reloading for 10mm, you are severly limiting yourself to having an expensive safe queen.  

I reload for 10mm and 38 Super because it's lot cheaper and there is not a good selection of factory ammo. With 10mm reloading you have more choice of types and weights then any other handgun caliber.

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November 19, 2012 - 7:22 pm
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Waldo- couldn't agree more!  I saw some 10mm WIN ammo at a local store last weekend and just for laughs I asked the clerk  what the price was.....

$28 for 20 rounds; rediculous. 

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Probably the Winchester 175 gr SilverTip personel defence ammo. Well known for reliability in standard 2 piece feed ramp guns like the Colt. Here at local farm and feed they are $22 for 20 round box.

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BlindFaith429 said 

Problem is though, that it shoots the brass out hard. Luckily I shoot indoors, so brass is easier to find, but still a PITA.
 

Yeah, no kidding! Mine will send brass about 20 feet back at about 5 o'clock, and that is with mild loads. Norma factory loads will go about 30 feet and if you're trying to catch them, they come at you like a 90 mph fastball. The good thing is, all the brass lands in the same place...very disciplined gun!

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What recoil spring you guys using? A 16# instead of 20# or 22# spring??? The Colt and DW throw them 7-10 feet from me, both have 20# Wolff spring. The DW was 20# from factory and the new SS DE was 18# from factory and I replaced it with a 20# Wolff spring.  

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I'm curious on the spring issue also.  I lost ten pieces of 10mm brass this week at the range due to the gun throwing the cases so far into the 'rough' beside my shooting point.  I hate loosing brass, especially 10's.

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Hey, Murphy strikes on regular basis when it comes to losing cases. I lose at least one every trip, even with huge tarp I mentioned above. mad

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I'm curious on the spring issue also.  I lost ten pieces of 10mm brass this week at the range due to the gun throwing the cases so far into the 'rough' beside my shooting point.  I hate loosing brass, especially 10's.

 

I used to hate losing 10mm cases also. Lately, I've noticed new 10mm brass going for the same as .45 ACP brass. Now it doesn't bother me as much.

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Here's something you should read, it's from Wolff Springs FAQ section. Lot of good info there, you all would be well served to go there and read the whole section.

 

FAQ 3. What weight recoil spring should I use with a particular load? 

This is a very common but hard question to answer in exact terms and in most cases an exact answer is not possible. There are many factors which influence the correct weight recoil spring to use. These factors include the particular ammunition brand and load, individual pistol characteristics, individual shooting styles and your individual, subjective feeling of how the gun shoots and should feel. 

The factory spring weight is designed to operate the pistol with what would be considered average loads, plus or minus a little.  It is not uncommon for manufacturers to specify what they consider a factory ammunition load.

In general terms, the heaviest recoil spring that will allow the pistol to function reliably is the best choice - tempered by the above factors. As a rule of thumb, if your spent casings are first hitting the ground in the 3 to 6 foot range, then the recoil spring is approximately correct. If you are ejecting beyond the 6-8 foot range, then a heavier recoil spring is generally required. If your casings are ejecting less than 3 feet, a lighter recoil spring may be needed to assure reliable functioning. 

Taking these factors into consideration, it then comes down to how the gun feels and performs when shooting - in your judgment. However, using too light a recoil spring can result in damage to the pistol and possible injury to you.

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