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March 19, 2016
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I like to think of myself as a well rounding gun guy. I own and shoot handguns, rifles, and shotguns of various makes and models. I started going to gun shows at a very early age where I would look at long guns and handguns, new and used. It has been 40+ years since I started. The guys I use to go with and learn from have passed away. I still remember all of the advice these guys threw my way and I usually find myself falling back on what I had been told before I purchase anything.
What I am seeing for prices of guns just blows me away. $6000 for Pythons, yah right. Don't get me wrong, a Python is a good gun but not worth $6000. A plain Jane everyday revolver from any manufacture was on average $600-800 many times much more. It is not hard to see why everyone is buying plastic guns now. They average about half the cost of a revolver. Slow but sure even the semi-autos are creeping up to the $500-800 range a few much more also. We use to look at how well built a gun was. The smoothness of the actions, quality of sights, and the finish. Now most sights do not adjust, the selling point is how much junk can be attached, and how many rounds will the magazine hold. I spent part of yesterday at the range. It looks like the average shooter is more interested in how fast they can empty their gun, rather than whether they can hit anything at all. I was shooting a 22LR handgun. The couple to my left had a brand new Glock 9mm. The guy told me he felt it was time to purchase a gun. His wife told me if there was going to be a gun in the house she might as well learn to shoot also. I noticed she really struggled with the 9mm so I offered my 22LR. She turned to her husband after shooting my gun and asked why he did not purchase a gun like mine. His response, that thing would never stop anyone attacking us. I told the couple I would pick their targets up when I retrieved mine so they did not have to wait for the shooting line to stop. The funning thing I noticed with their targets was the lack of holes, there were targets that did not have one hole. The value of his gun was that it was new, it was a very popular make and model, also that it was a 9mm which held a ton of ammo and would knock anyone off their feet. The value of my gun was that I hit my target everytime. I think what I saw yesterday was old school vs the new school and the difference in the value we put on our gun. Any thoughts guys?
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June 11, 2016
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I agree with you what good is a gun that you cannot hit anything with not to mention how long the expensive cheap thing will last. I would not buy much of the new stuff and nothing with plastic it goes against my grain. As far as the Python's go I sold mine when they hit 3700.00, I figured for that price I could buy two nice Dan Wesson Pistol Packs. Don't get me wrong the Python is a nice looking revolver but have no idea why they keep rising so high in price as there seems to be many of them out there. Go figure to each there own as they say.
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December 4, 2011
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Was at the range today with my daughter and noted The two guys beside us were having a tough time hitting anything with their Tupperware pistols shooting Tulammo steel case. They kept having failures to extract. Meanwhile my daughter was fast firing her Sig P238 and grouping well. I was shooting my SSC and it was grouping very well as always. The guys asked us why they were having so many malfunctions. I told them I only shoot brass cased ammo
Told them steel can be sticky. They asked what to do about it, I said don't shoot it. I said you spent good money for your guns, don't use cheap ammo.
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March 25, 2013
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I need all the help I can get. Good triggers and accurate guns help make up for my lack of ability.
On another note, guns still being made don't aappreciate. As far as Pythons and other finely made guns of yore, gasoline was 23 cents a gallon, a Cadillac cost $ 4500 or less. $15,000 bought you a nice home and $ 100 a week was a decent living. The cars lasted a fifth of the miles a new car lasts. Pythons are industrial art of the highest order. If you think they are too much money just wait 20 years. 20 years ago you could buy them all day for $ 500. JMHO.
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January 17, 2015
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My wife has only been to the range a few times with me, but she is a great shot with my Dans and my Ruger MKIII Hunter; it's almost embarrassing compared to the hours I have spent shooting, reloading, then shooting some more. I think the weight helps keep your grip and aim steady, minimizing recoil and preventing a flinch from even starting. I have tried my friend's .40 Glock a few times and I found it quite accurate, being able to stack shots rather easy, but it sure was snappy with the recoil.
May 16, 2012
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Could not agree more with what 10magnums wrote. It is universal though, in any range you will see the exact same scene described. Almost every time at the range there are people with striker fired-safety triggered semi autos which are the trend and cant hit s***. Although the problem is not the gun but them.
March 19, 2016
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What blows my mind is that they do not care if they hit anything. They bring a full ammo box, shoot until it is empty and they could take the target home and use the next time. I told my wife from what I have seen at the range, if she is ever being shot at to just stand still. There is a better chance of her running into a bullet than being hit by one. I should qualify this by saying there are a few people out there that shoot very well. But it is becoming the exception not the majority. I have to say the targets keep getting larger also. Do we really need 2 foot by 3 foot targets when the distance is less than 20 yards. The target on a dunk tank that you throw a ball at is smaller. I had a guy tell me that you can not shoot a group with a handgun. I asked him why he shot then. If you can not hit anything why shoot. I mean the reason we shoot at targets is to hit them correct? Sometimes I think they just like the noise.
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February 9, 2009
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Best one I ever had was years ago when a couple of obviously 'macho' dudes sat down to my left, I was simply shooting a .22 revolver that day (at 25-yards). You could hear all the jargin about , the small toy I was shooting, etc... They pulled out their 454 Casull and were shooting it at 15-yards. I believe the first guy shot his five rounds, then hands it to his buddy says here you try it. Five more rounds later. "Hey you can shoot it again, don't want to use all your ammo", "no that's alright, you can keep shooting it, really". "Well its getting late, better head on home". That trip accomplished ten rounds fired, I believe three holes in the paper and two diminished Egos. Still laugh about that one.
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