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Hester 57
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May 31, 2016 - 6:56 pm
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What is the lenghth of a 357 supermag Dan Wesson cylinder as compared to a ruger 357 maximum cylinder??? I believe the ruger is shorter.TIAbig-grin

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The Ruger cylinder is shorter, but I forget the exact length. Member "Coogs" could answer that one, among others.

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Also not sure of exact difference. prescut can atest to durability factor. Check out his Ruger on gunsmith reloading thread. Bad overpressure ammo !!wow

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I have read that the ruger cylinder is significantly shorter causing the maximum cartridges to have the bullet to be seated deeper to clear the frame and subsequently leaving less powder room in the case, thus for any heavier weight bullet the round loaded for the maximum will be slower than a similar round loaded for the supermag. Is this true?

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Here is some interesting info that David Bradshaw posted regarding the origins of the .357SM, a few years ago... LINK

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thanks charger fan,

 

I absolutely love reading David Bradshaw's writings.  His style and language just fit me.  You can almost feel his emotions as he writes.

Not to mention that his personal experience is the best on the planet for that early Ruger and Maximum period.  

I hadn't seen that link.  Thanks much

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Hester 57 said
What is the lenghth of a 357 supermag Dan Wesson cylinder as compared to a ruger 357 maximum cylinder??? I believe the ruger is shorter.TIAbig-grin  

Ruger Maximum - 1.935"

Dan Wesson - 2.075"

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Thank you 80x80. Ruger is .140 shorter.  About how many grains of powder is that equivalent to? R

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hester57 said
Thank you 80x80. Ruger is .140 shorter.  About how many grains of powder is that equivalent to? R  

Sorry I can't help you there, I only own Dan Wessons in that cartridge.

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Does that mean with the starline brass (OAL 1.600) we can load the longer bullets that Hornady lists for the thompson center (I kind of want to try their 200g ftx bullet)?

 
 
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I'm not sure about that, as I haven't gotten around to trying those new bullets yet. Many years ago, I wanted to try some 200 grain Hornady SP rifle bullets in my .357 SuperMag Dan Wesson. In order to use the crimping groove, I had to cut the brass down to a length of 1.483". They worked perfectly. Something you might need to do.

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Well, I did try a "dummy" one with the ftx's and they didn't load in mine (too fat for some reason in the starline brass -they bulged the case out a little).  I sent mine in to Bob at DW and it checked out fine so I might have done something wrong.  I might try it later again but I'll use the 180 xtps for now.  I might throw them in a karma offering in case anyone else wants to experiment.  Btw thanks everyone for all the imput !

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