
August 4, 2019

First posting here. A few years ago I inherited a Dan Wesson P-744-VH. Missing the belt buckle and the patch, but has an extra 4” barrel and shroud along with the 6” & 8” barrel and shroud, 3 extra front sights, additional wooden finger groove grip, barrel removal tool, gauge, and the original instruction manual.
This was originally purchased by my uncle(Dads sisters husband) as a sidearm for hunting bears. He would take it out each year and run a few cylinders of ammo thru it, clean it, go hunting and put it away till the following year. He thought it would be hilarious to pass it on to my mom when he quit hunting, so she could chap my dads ass with the fact it was her gun! She put 6 rounds thru it, boxed it up and slid it under the bed for the rest of its life. I got it and several other guns a few years ago when she passed. I would guess that this gun has had less than a hundred rounds put thru it its entire life. It’s absolutely immaculate and gorgeous. Im trying to figure out how to post pics of it from my iPad but failing miserably.
Stamped: DAN WESSON ARMS, PALMER, MASS Serial # S0021XX
I’ve tried looking it up online but finding very little to go off of as far as finding a value for this. A friend of mine offered me $1,200, Cash for Arms offered me $1,000, and a local shop said they’d gimme $250 for the whole pack. Any off the top o yer head ideas?
Thanks in advance

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January 24, 2009

Popskid1971 said
I'm trying to figure out how to post pics of it from my iPad but failing miserably.
Sounds like you need a desktop. I only use an iPad when I'm away from home & my faithful desktop...and am Jonesin' to fart around on the interwebz. But that's just me.
Yes, I hold iPads (and smarty-phones) as a sub-par device most of the time.


Dans Club
December 7, 2020

Most likely, the Pac never had a buckle if it's a Palmer gun, as that would date it about 1993-94? If it were the stainless gun by itself with no pitting, the lowest end would be $700 for just the gun in 12 month sold histories. But, if it is an original Palmer Pac with matching Ser# on the case label, the original paperwork, sales receipt...(under the foam?), and you could be looking easily North of $1500 for the "right buyer" as a pac.
There are those that part/piece it out. If you have the time and patience, and you could be looking at much more in the "ideal circumstances" of busting a pac. The more pacs busted up, the fewer there are. The more value remaining pacs acrue.
Current retail of new factory aftermarket Barrels: https://shop.cz-usa.com/dw-products/revolver/barrels-shrouds/44-magnum.html
If you are looking to sell, post it here in the classified with asking price, OBO. Most here would keep it whole. Pics. lots of pics. Or you could try your luck on GunBroker.com. Use lots of pictures and start at a penny. And see what the market brings.
For insurance purposes; $2K
Just my 2 cents.

August 4, 2019

I think I may have figured out how to add pics! Just had to do a little more digging. So, after a little more research, I’m not sure if this actually is a pistol pac, or just a set that my uncle put together on his own, or maybe he just misplaced the original case. Pretty sure this is not the case a Dan Wesson Pistol PAC would come in, at least there’s no tag or serial number or anything like that on it.
Anyways, still a damn cool setup in my opinion. Think I may need to pry the ol wallet open and go make some noise with her!


































Dans Club
March 28, 2023

That's nice and a bit rare. A Palmer Wesson Arms PAC with an extra barrel. (I'm still confused. Is that a Palmer barrel or a Norwich barrel?) It has the DW circled on the left side of the barrel and the cursive roll marks I thought were CZ barrel markings. The other two barrels were clearly Palmer as well as the factory Travelmaster case used by Palmer for Dan Wesson Arms from 1991 to 1996 and pretty rare! Should still have a tag on the side! Very nice set up! Yes yo got a pretty rare Palmer factory 44 magnum. Here are a few pics from the cartalog in the mid 90's plus my hunter pac in the same type Travelmaster factory case!









February 16, 2016

Stmstan 445 said
Is that a Palmer barrel or a Norwich barrel?) It has the DW circled on the left side of the barrel and the cursive roll marks I thought were CZ barrel markings.
I believe that 4" BA is Serva Norwich or early CZ and that font is not cursive, more like italics.
Nice grips .. a Zebra and burl thumb rest.

August 4, 2019

Stmstan 445, Thanks for the info! When you say it’s a bit rare, would that mean there was a limited run on how many were made, or that they just don’t pop up very often?
Also, how would I go about identifying whether that 4” barrel is a Norwich or a CZ? And is there a difference between the 2 other than the name?


Dans Club
March 28, 2023

so the 4 inch was made at a later date. It was made by Norwich whereas the other two barrels were made at Palmer. You can see the roll marks are different (They say 44 mag CTG) and the other barrel has a DW circled on the left side of the barrel. Yea the biggest reason is Palmer was going thru hard times and were not making very many guns those years so the supply was low. This has cut down the amount of the supply out there so not as many are showing up on the used market now. Be glad you got a Palmer they are rare so far less of them out there. I personally think the quality is as good or better. Their blue finish is way better than Monson so I love my blue Palmers!










Dans Club
March 28, 2023




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January 24, 2009

Geez, a guy gets wrapped up in making a living for a week & what happens! Popskid1971 figures out how to post
here on the
and some of us go...
over his
, and rightfully so.
So, Popskid, your Uncle ended up (likely stumbling into the timing of) buying a large bore Pistol Pac from maybe a 12 month or less window in time, when that particular PP generation was even up for sale. Super cool & rare! And cool too, is that he passed in on to you & didn't let it go at some point. Again, rare.
I have been chasing/trying to document factory DW PP's for a decade now & yours (along with Stan's follow-up photos) convinces me that yours is real, even though you don't have the outer label. Whatever you do, do NOT let that one go! There is more than enough evidence that (aside from the extra Norwich BA), you have an original rare 2-barrel Palmer PP. The snubby Norwich is just a bonus.
And thanks for figuring out how to post on our screwy forum, that helps so much!


Dans Club
March 28, 2023

Yea you can tell the way the foam is cut also how it has finger groves so you can loft the barrels and tools out easy. It's a real Palmer PAC like I said before the only ding the PAC is having the 8VH barrel tapped & dripped. You never know, one may come up for sale on eBay or GB.
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