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March 27, 2013
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My DW 44 I purchased a few years ago had an exquisite jeweling performed on the trigger and hammer. The trigger pull though is around 2 lbs. and I am having problems with misfires. I'm assuming there was quite a bit of cutting performed on the coil spring and it will probably have to be replaced. Any other things you guys can suggest I would appreciate your input.
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April 18, 2014
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Not sure, cause I don't have a large frame, but I would think that a grip screw, to tight would act the same as on small frames. The tang is different but the hammer spring seems very similar.
If I'm incorrect, there'll be a large frame guy to make a correction.
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March 25, 2013
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I think that if the grip screw was too tight the single action would not work. Someone may have trimmed the mainspring which is NOT what to do with a Dan, or put in reduced power springs ( maybe the Wolff 7 1/2 lb. one ). The easy fix is either an 8 lb. Wolff or an orginal Dan Wesson. Even easier is to try a different ammo brand. That could end up costing more though at the price of 44 Rem Mag. Use the large frame tutorial to change springs. The real reason is probably those silly jeweled hammer and trigger. You should send them to me and I will send you a proper set. Haha! Nah! Those are mighty pretty.
October 1, 2012
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Gunswood,
I agree with Ole dawg that you probably need to put in a new mainspring. I have worked on a few large frame DW and with a slicked action and reliable mainspring you usually get a trigger pull of 3.5 The primers used on 44s can often be a little harder. A pull of 2lbs would indicate coils have been snipped OR the spring retainer has backed off a few threads. I had that on one of my 44s . Had to loctite it in.
HUGELK
March 27, 2013
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I have noticed my reloads w/Winchester Large Pistol/Magnum primers are more prone to misfires than some stock ammo I ran through it but they should detonate reliably provided all things are correct. I have heard changing out the spring is a real pain so maybe I ought to adjusting the spring retainer before doing open heart surgery on her. Thanks for the tips...will update as it progresses. Oh, and Ole Dog, you got first dibbs on the trigger/hammer when I get tired of them.
October 1, 2012
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The spring retainer is usually staked, or loctited to prevent tampering with. It only moves if it was not done properly at factory. The large frames are not that bad to work on if you are experienced with one piece frame revolvers. The tutorial here in the forum has pictures and verbage that will help a lot. Main thing is to use the " string trick" to get it back together. That and a bit of luck.
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March 27, 2013
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Ole Dog said
I think that if the grip screw was too tight the single action would not work. Someone may have trimmed the mainspring which is NOT what to do with a Dan, or put in reduced power springs ( maybe the Wolff 7 1/2 lb. one ). The easy fix is either an 8 lb. Wolff or an orginal Dan Wesson. Even easier is to try a different ammo brand. That could end up costing more though at the price of 44 Rem Mag. Use the large frame tutorial to change springs. The real reason is probably those silly jeweled hammer and trigger. You should send them to me and I will send you a proper set. Haha! Nah! Those are mighty pretty.
Wolff only show Small Frame Revolver springs on their website.
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April 20, 2010
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Somebody here correct me if I am wrong, but the small frames and large frames take the same hammer spring I am pretty sure? Some of the other springs are the same too but I can't remember which ones. I searched but cannot find the thread discussing this.
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October 1, 2012
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I am not 100 % on this however..They look similar but Numrich shows two seperate part numbers and two different prices. I have always keep mine in two different bins when I had extras.
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April 20, 2010
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Nevermind me. I found a thread where Superdan states that the large and small frame springs are not the same. I trust him. So ignore my previous post.
https://www.danwessonforum.com/forum/revolvers/large-frame-da-trigger-questions/
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March 27, 2013
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hugelk said
I am not 100 % on this however..They look similar but Numrich shows two seperate part numbers and two different prices. I have always keep mine in two different bins when I had extras.HUGELK
What part # from Numrich is the correct item?
Dans Club
April 18, 2014
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1319030 is listed for .44
1299030 is listed for .357 they both show out of stock at Numrich's. I would lean towards, they may very well be the same.
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March 27, 2013
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Striking out an mainsprings. Numrich says the spring is no longer available and Wolff only offers a spring for the small frame.
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April 18, 2014
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I will do some searching to see if I can help you find one. Two sets of eyes...
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October 1, 2012
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I checked parts and the 44 spring is the same OD but is about half inch shorter than the small frame , and the coil wire is much thicker. I am not suggesting you do this....but I have often gone to ace hardware spring section when doing trigger modifications. I use a dremmel cutting wheel to get a nice cut quickly. I usually experiment with ACE springs while saving the factory original just in case I need to go back. Or maybe post your need on the wanted section of the DW forum.
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November 17, 2008
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Maybe I missed it but have you tried DW for the spring?
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March 27, 2013
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ese927 said
I will do some searching to see if I can help you find one. Two sets of eyes...
Much appreciated.
March 27, 2013
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lbruce said
Maybe I missed it but have you tried DW for the spring?
LB
I have contacted them and can acquire a complete spring set for about 38.00 including shipping. Maybe the route I go. I think the stock spring is about 11 lbs. and I was hoping to get an 8lb. spring. I guess a little heavier trigger sure beats rounds not firing at you when you're being charged by an animal huh?
March 27, 2013
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hugelk said
I checked parts and the 44 spring is the same OD but is about half inch shorter than the small frame , and the coil wire is much thicker. I am not suggesting you do this....but I have often gone to ace hardware spring section when doing trigger modifications. I use a dremmel cutting wheel to get a nice cut quickly. I usually experiment with ACE springs while saving the factory original just in case I need to go back. Or maybe post your need on the wanted section of the DW forum.HUGELK
That's a good suggestion and there are some other suppliers of springs in town. Any idea on the length specs for a factory spring?
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