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December 7, 2020
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Stmstan 445 said
So I seldom message a seller about anything incorrect about listings but when it comes to fixed barrels I do. Why? Because it's kind of a big deal. I did not know about fixed barrels until I started reading on the forum. Most buyers of a Dan Wesson are expecting a gun they can put different barrels on. I can't imagine buying a Dan Wesson and then after it's delivered I find out that it's a fixed barrel when I was expecting a gun I could buy other barrels for. I also found that most sellers also do not know what they are selling is a fixed barrel. most of the time they reply to me thanking me for the info. Also most fixed barrel guns sell for less than a regular Dan so there is that fact! They are sometimes sellers who are hiding the fact I can't do anything about that but in most cases the seller told me he had no idea about fixed barrels. To his credit, this seller posted in large print the facts about it and thanked me for the info. In most cases buyer beware but when it comes to fixed barrel guns I will always shoot the seller a message to help both seller and buyer out with this important info!
From my POV: “caveat emptor”. If it is poorly listed, and not what the buyer expected then eventually it will be resold. Hopefully, at a lower price?
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March 28, 2023
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This is true but the gun has to first be shipped then sent back then re-listed. Expensive for the seller and buyer and a hassle! I'm trying to head that off at the pass before the gun is even sold. If the sellers don't really know what they're selling and buyers the same by messaging the seller up front and just giving them info on fixed barrel guns it sure saves time and money. Sure there are sellers that do know and do not want buyers to know but I think most are just unaware of what a fixed barrel gun is. Case in point I sent the seller of this 44 magnum He added the info once I let him know about fixed barrels. This is a unique thing that does not apply to most guns so I think it's a good or right thing to do by letting the seller know and if he is a reputable seller he will let the buyers out there know and then it's up to them to figure out what a fixed barrel is! Also with most fixed barrel guns worth less this is helping the buyer most of the time.
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March 28, 2023
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I thru $1151 at it i'm out! The current hi bidder can't make up his mind his screen name is fordandchevyman!
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March 25, 2013
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Fordandcchevyman is a shill for Atlas.
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March 28, 2023
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Good to know thanks! I'm glad I got out before the price went over. You saved me some $$$$ Thank you Ole Dog! I wish we could identify more of these shill bidders! I guess these practices can backfire on sellers sometimes as they get stuck with the gun and have to resell it. don't they still have to pay the fees or do they just list the gun as non payment and go on/ I know GunBroker is not real good at policing their site!
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March 25, 2013
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They have to pay the fees but it is not a large amount compared to how high they can drive a price up. Look at the suspect bidders feedback and you will see they have bought large amounts of the sellers guns in the past. Large volume sellers will share shills or act as shills for other large volume sellers. Atlas seems to be particularly egregious.
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February 22, 2009
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Ole Dog said
...Look at the suspect bidders feedback and you will see they have bought large amounts of the sellers guns in the past. Large volume sellers will share shills or act as shills for other large volume sellers. Atlas seems to be particularly egregious.
I do this frequently as well. It helps to glean info on what type of bidder they are. In this case, he's an FFL with an A+ rating and more than 2300 reviews- none as a seller and zero items for sale. RED FLAG
Technically, the glass is always full; half liquid, half air....
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February 24, 2013
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Thank you! This is great information. I’ll definitely starting looking at competing bidder feedback from now on.
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March 25, 2013
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Myy dear departed S&W expert told me that all the big sellers use shills. He said most of them help each other. It's a wonder we get any deals at all. Best deals are from small FFLs and Pawn shops. With that being said, my dear departed Pawn and Gun shop FFL buddy occasionally had me bid on a couple of things. Most of the time I ended up buying and keeping the item🙄
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