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414 Supermag conversion
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superdan
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May 11, 2025 - 11:02 am
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Like many others on the forum I have wanted a 414 Supermag for a long time. Made a few attempts at getting one and either went beyond my funds at the time or I was 2nd in line. Decided for the time being I would at least be able to see if I liked it without dropping big $ by converting a surplus 740 to 414. 
Started by convincing Dan Wesson in Norwich (not easy btw) to sell me a cylinder. In the process they informed me that they had no more large frame extractors for 357 or 41. I placed a want ad on here and a couple other places along with looking at the normal parts places and ebay with no success. Decided that the only direction I could take would be to make one. Took a 44 that I did have back engineered it to the best of my ability confirmed everything on a CNC CMM and modified the cutouts for 41. Since my day job is to program CNC lathes, mills and a Multus along with some solid modeling when engineering is backed up I drew up a model and made a print. Then programmed the front side (the part the hand actually rotates) and managed to slip it through the shop leaving the back star shaped slots to do manually. I did that since I was trying to be quick and not tie up a machine for a long time (not planning on making a bunch). Sent them out to heat treat, made a fixture for a manual mill, machined the back shape, made the hex rod the extractor actually is assembled on and fit it all together. The barrel was a 10” DW 41 barrel I got from rwsem that was cut down and rethreaded for the frame end 11/16-32 and the nut end 21/32-40. Cut the forcing and threw my normal crown on it. Then polished everything up which took a while DW was not great with their as machined finish. Took it out for it’s test fire yesterday and seemed to shoot good everything worked as it should. I think it made me want a real one even more now……… 
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Hopefully Starline will make some more brass soon. 

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May 11, 2025 - 11:13 am
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All that’s left now is to mark the shroud which the guy that runs the laser will do whenever I bring it in to work. 

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Wow - nice job.  That's a real skill you have to be able to design and manufacture your own parts single-handedly.

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Nice job on the extractor- I was lucky enough to source the extractor with the cylinder when I did the conversion of my "extra" 740.  I cerakoted the cylinder black as a visual clue to check the bore on the barrel. Thanks for the forcing cone cutter!

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Technically, the glass is always full; half liquid, half air....

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Thanks for the kind words. Thankfully the shop I work at has been fairly lenient on personal projects and people haven’t abused it. 

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rwsem said
Nice job on the extractor- I was lucky enough to source the extractor with the cylinder when I did the conversion of my "extra" 740.  I cerakoted the cylinder black as a visual clue to check the bore on the barrel. Thanks for the forcing cone cutter!

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Is that an EWK shroud with the picatinny machined top? I didn’t know he did a run of those for the large/supermag frame! No problem on the cutter like I said just pass the karma along to someone else sometime. 

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Absolutely fantastic work! I'm glad you were able to talk DW into making you a cylinder, making your own would have been a PITA.

Thanks for sharing your cool story! dwf

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