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March 20, 2014
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I just picked up a Model 12 Pistol Pack yesterday that is in 97% plus condition. I traded a gun i picked up for $580 for the PP so i figured i can't go wrong for under $600. This one will look great next to my 715 Pistol Pack and 15 HV PP. The bluing is a deep glossy black with virtually no wear! I cant wait to take it to the range.
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April 20, 2010
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Very nice! Well worth that investment.
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April 18, 2014
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Nice looking pac man. 
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March 2, 2008
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You got a VERY good deal on a VERY nice 12 Pack!
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December 16, 2010
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Here is my W12 pac , funny that it is laid out different. Do you have two carry handles on the case?
Lets see some others Pac's
March 20, 2014
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Mine also has the 2 handles
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December 16, 2010
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I wish i had two extra external barrel nuts for the other shroud assembly's. I am sure they are hard to find.
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March 20, 2014
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When did they stop production on the model 12? I know the first one was shipped in 1970 and the 14,15 were introduced in 1971? Did they stop the model 12 when the 14,15s were introduced in 1971? I wish I had two extra barrel nuts or EWK would make some as well. I hear they can can go for $100 on eBay.
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January 24, 2009
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Rugercypert said
When did they stop production on the model 12? I know the first one was shipped in 1970 and the 14,15 were introduced in 1971? Did they stop the model 12 when the 14,15s were introduced in 1971?
I am fairly certain they stopped production of the 11 & 12 in mid-to-late 1971, when they rolled out the 14 & 15. So in my book, that makes these guns fairly rare, in the grand scheme of things.
One of these days they may be worth millions!
Congrats on your find, I think you you did great. And thanks for showing it off!
BTW, is yours a 2 or 3 digit serial number?
Stovepipe, because the lower foam is actually two pieces, it's easy for them to be placed in the case either direction. I think most folks have the gun facing left, just because. Here are my two...Ed & Fred, #96 & 97.
Fred has been fired a little at some point, like maybe 20 rounds or so...Ed appears to have only been fired at the factory. I'm still deciding if I should take Fred to the range & give him some exercise.
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December 16, 2010
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Cool ,Very cool,
Thank you for introducing Ed and Fred, and you have one for each hand
March 20, 2014
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Fred look fat and needs a trip to the range for exercise lol. Great looking PPs. Where do I find the serial number on my model 12? I took the grip off and the frame has 1997 on the frame where the grip mounts. Is this the serial number?
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March 25, 2013
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The serial number is on the frame under the crane. Should be 10,000 or so, or less. I have been watching ebay for two years and have seen maybe two barrel nuts. None in over a year.
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January 24, 2009
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Ole Dog said
The serial number is on the frame under the crane...
Actually, the early ones were on the grip tang.
They moved to the frame under the crane a while later. This is a model 12 stamped under the crane...
Before my photo host site crashed a while back, I had a pretty substantial list of s/n's going, so I could try to narrow down when the change took place. I kept the list with the photos for reference...THAT was a bad idea. Most are now gone.
So now, I can't recall for sure what the highest number was that was on a grip tang...but I do recall it was another member here. So Rugercypert, if your isn't stamped under the crane & it looks like the top photo I posted, congratulations, you are the new high number winner!
March 20, 2014
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I must be the current winner. The serial number is 1997 on the grip tang and nothing on the crane. I wonder what serial number moved to the crane.
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January 24, 2009
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Sweet, we have a winner!!
Honestly, I would be surprised to see very many digits above yours. This is good to know, one day we will be able to dial in this stuff a whole lot closer.
Oh, and just to be speculative, I would imagine your PP was made probably 2-3 months after my own Ed-n-Fred twins. I don't know how many finished guns they were cranking out that early on, but I would love to find out answers to guesses like this.
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December 4, 2011
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Looks just like mine, and you got it a great price too, congrats!
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March 25, 2013
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I am 8072 under the crane. Mine was not a pack but I have accumulated all three barrels. It has a special place in my heart. It is the first Dan I performed surgery on. A broken hand spring. I used to know about the early ser. # being on the tang but I am having senior moments occassionally.Or more.
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January 24, 2009
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Ole Dog said
...but I am having senior moments occassionally.Or more.
That's perfectly fine, I have enough of those myself, so I'm not going to point fingers!
My main concern here is to keep the facts "factual" for future members/readers. There is already too many misconstrued "facts" where DW's are concerned, so here at the
we need to try to keep it as straight as possible.
And on that thought, I don't recall seeing a number higher than 1xxx on the grip tang, so (for now) there's a very good chance that they went to stamping the numbers on the crane shortly before (or AT) the 2K mark.
April 25, 2014
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did Model 12 come in a flat black finish? I was watching a Model 12pistol PAC recently on Gunbroker and after 3 tries Itfinally made it up to about 550, which was still below reserve. finish may be why it was so low ? they also had a model 11 pack for about 650.
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