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My 15-2... blued to polished steel
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jsmidd
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April 25, 2015 - 11:53 am
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I don't like the bluing in my Dan, so I took the time yesterday to pretty it up!

Before.....

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AFTER!!!!

 

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April 25, 2015 - 12:01 pm
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Wowwow, all mechanical work or some chemical?  (Curious about the trigger position in the last pic)

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You now have no rust protection (actually blueing is rust...) so be judicious about keeping it protected now it is "in the white"!

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April 25, 2015 - 12:30 pm
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Middlecalf,

I did a hasty assembly to take the pic, hence the trigger. It's all back in working order now.

To remove the blue, I did a complete disassembly, soaked each part in vinegar for up to 15 minutes, then rinsed in a water/baking soda sokution. Next, I hit each part with 1500 grit sandpaper, then buffed it out by hand with good 'ol #7 auto steel polish.

Total time investment... 3 hrs.

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April 25, 2015 - 12:31 pm
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rwsem said
You now have no rust protection (actually blueing is rust...) so be judicious about keeping it protected now it is "in the white"!

I'll be clear coating it with a product from KG Industries.

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rwsem said
You now have no rust protection (actually blueing is rust...) so be judicious about keeping it protected now it is "in the white"!

Keeping it oiled and properly stored is important, lot's of ventilation in a controlled environment.

Maybe some Renaissance Wax as well?

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I bet that was a fun project. Probably turn a few heads at the range. I would think a quick and thorough cleaning would really be a must after firing now.

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Middlecalf,

I did a hasty assembly to take the pic, hence the trigger. It's all back in working order now.

To remove the blue, I did a complete disassembly, soaked each part in vinegar for up to 15 minutes, then rinsed in a water/baking soda sokution. Next, I hit each part with 1500 grit sandpaper, then buffed it out by hand with good 'ol #7 auto steel polish.

Total time investment... 3 hrs.

I am guessing the vinegar acted as some sort of acid bath?  Does this corrode the bluing making it easier to remove?  Does the baking soda bath counteract the acid of the vinegar?  Any explanation of what this soak and wash do to the bluing would be appreciated and why you used these prior to the sandpaper.  

I have a 6" shroud for a .22 that has two bad spots (call them blemishes if buying and beauty marks if selling) in the bluing and I am considering a re-blue buy some of the folks recommended on this site.  I have considered doing what you have done in removing the bluing for a re-blue or re-finish but just have not gotten around to looking into the best approach.  Thanks for posting and the photos, interested in the thoughts behind the process.     

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April 26, 2015 - 11:17 am
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PABowhunter...

The vinegar turns the blueing grey, and then a little brown.  Once it's a slight brown, you remove it from the bath, rinse it with water and baking soda, and most of it comes right off.  What's left gets sanded out very easily with the 1500 grit sandpaper.

On both the 4" and the 6" barrels, the vinegar did the entire thing - I didn't even have to sand, but I did anyway just because. 

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April 26, 2015 - 11:18 am
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PAbowhunter said

I am guessing the vinegar acted as some sort of acid bath?  Does this corrode the bluing making it easier to remove?  Does the baking soda bath counteract the acid of the vinegar?  Any explanation of what this soak and wash do to the bluing would be appreciated and why you used these prior to the sandpaper.  

I have a 6" shroud for a .22 that has two bad spots (call them blemishes if buying and beauty marks if selling) in the bluing and I am considering a re-blue buy some of the folks recommended on this site.  I have considered doing what you have done in removing the bluing for a re-blue or re-finish but just have not gotten around to looking into the best approach.  Thanks for posting and the photos, interested in the thoughts behind the process.     

Regular white vinegar will strip bluing off rather quickly.  It is also known to remove rust off items (which is what bluing really is, in fact) with longer soaks.  I stripped the bluing off my old shotgun simply using a vinegar soak

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All vinegar in my house will now be housed in locked ammo boxes and buried in the back yard so to never get anywhere near my beloved blued revolvers.  Had no idea that vinegar would do that to bluing, but interesting as I have not done any re-finishing work on my guns, just trigger polish etc.  Great info.  Great forum. 

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one of the best parts of my education – *make* them hunters.”

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Thanks for the pics and information you guys. Another classroom session!

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April 26, 2015 - 6:24 pm
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This is great information, and I really think it belongs in the Gunsmithing area.

No issue with where it was originally posted, I think it will be a better long term resource, and more easily found here.

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April 26, 2015 - 7:40 pm
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Powdered food grade Citric acid works well for stripping a blued gun too.

Coke, Pepsi, etc... can do the same. Often to the dismay of the unlucky firearm owner. mad 

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April 27, 2015 - 9:13 am
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I have been using vinegar to remove the rust from my old bonsai tools for decades. Unfortunately the bluing is removed to. With the bluing gone,  they will rust rapidly.  I would soak the gun in Dextron  or motor oil and reapply frequently. Grease lightly  applied , especially to those surfaces not easily reached could last longer.

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