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Over Pressure or Weak Brass Factory Ammo
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Went to the range yesterday to shoot the 10" Barrel .357 Super Mag.  I did not have any reloads worked up so I figured I would shoot some of the Jamison factory Ammo that I recently purchased.  As I had mentioned in an earlier range report.  This Ammo will simply not fire when shooting double action but most of the time it shoots when I fire single action.

However, the light primer strikes pale in comparison to what I consider a major issue of 3 overpressured rounds or weak brass as evidenced by the 3 split cases and difficult ejection I experienced.  I have contacted Jamison Ammo and informed them of this issue.  BUt in the mean time, be careful if you are shooting Jamison Ammo in your Dan Wesson or any other firearm.  

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Unfortunately, that's not uncommon for old stock Jamison Brass.  It's not overpressure but bad brass.  Probably not drawn or annealed correctly. 

If you purchased from a local gun store, I'd take it back and ask for a refund.  Then let the LGS deal with Jamison.

In the meantime, order a few boxes from Mike Bellm to tide you over.

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This is the reply from Jamison Ammo aka "Captech International"...I am certainly satisfied with their response.  I will ship the Unused and shot up ammo tomorrow via UPS on their account and looks like they will somehow refund.  Gotta love products made in America and Americans providing other Americans with customer service/satisfaction.  .  

 

Mr. ++PABOWHUNTER,

 
   I apologize for the delay in getting back to you I was out of my office Friday.  I am going to copy you to Kathy in sales and she will set you up with a Return number.  We are very sorry to hear about your difficulties and do our best to make this right.  

   First I would like to reassure you that the ammunition is loaded below the SAAMI established 48000 CUP.  We have had a few issues due to variations from chamber to chamber.  We are in the process of tweaking draw design and dimensions to alleviate this issue.  New redesigned brass is expected to be finished in the next 5-6 weeks.  New production ammo will follow. 

 
   Kathy should be emailing you this afternoon or early tomorrow regarding the return.  Once the new production ammo is complete and tested we would like to send you some free of charge to test for yourself.  If you would be will?.  
 
   Once again I apologize for the slow response and any issues that you may be having.  Please watch for Kathy's.

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Technically, the glass is always full; half liquid, half air....

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I notice that those are 158-gr. bullets. I thought we were supposed to stay above 170-gr. to prevent topstrap flame-cutting issues?

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When I reload for 357 Max I do use the 180 grain bullets. I think the top strap flame cutting issue you were asking about occurred when using even lighter bullets like the 125 grain bullets. (This would all be just from things I have read and absolutely zero first hand knowledge)  I do know that the older Remington Factory Ammo I have for 357 Max was also 158 grain bullets.  You can find I am sure plenty of reading on the flame cutting top strap issue just by doing some searches, you could also maybe search about the discontinued Ruger Blackhawk in 357 Max.  

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Sounds like a fun topic to research, since I have both a 40 & 740 and reload, it just makes sense.

Apparently, it is a combination of factors, such as muzzle velocity. The lighter bullets of 110 and 125 grains, pushed over 2,000 ft. sec. were the worst offenders and do the most damage. 

158-gr. at your velocities is probably fine.

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